Corkies on the Bottom... Biting/ Lining/Snagging ???

[Get Bit]

over the years I watched the Tillamook tidewater fishery go from a straight bobber/eggs/shrimp show to variety of techniques. These things include Kwikfish,back bouncing eggs, or corkies on the bottom. Seems to me that those folks employing this method sure do snag a lot of fish in there quest. Any body have any opinions ??

Get Bit

[Nanook]

A million, right here. Will save everyone my ranting again though. images/icons/shocked.gif

[damc]

Getbait,

I always looked a little suspiciously at people using straight corkies, until I started fishing them this year. I made three trips on the Clackamas drifting eggs and I didn't catch a single silver. Finally I broke down and asked the guy in the boat next to me and he told me to try a corkie and yarn. Two casts later I hooked and landed a silver. In the four or five trips since then we have have hooked 30-40 silvers. Of these fish we had to release 4 fish because they were foul hooked.

Pretty much every boat I see is using straight corkies and yarn in the same hole I fish (Deep Creek). I know that they must be snagging fish (accidentaly I hope), but I have yet to see anyone besides myself and my fishing partners release a fish.

I like fishing corkies better than eggs because it is easier and my hands don't smell like eggs. I just wish everyone else was a little more honest so I wouldn't have to feel like I am doing something wrong when I fish with corkies.

Mike

[TheRogue]

We've beaten that one dead, I think. There are definitely 2 very different opinions amongst everyone. See these threads.....
http://www.ifish.net/cgi-local/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=007349
http://www.ifish.net/cgi-local/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=007351

Kyle

[Klick Steelies]

Damc, I agree with you about drift fishing corky and yarn, with a touch of scent can be very effective. Most of my fishing partners, as well as myself predominitly fish this way, for winter steelhead. It is a very very rare occassion, if at all that we foul hook a fish.
I do not plunk anything, I lose interest too fast. So as far as plunking corky and yarn, I have no opinion on the matter. But I would like a little more information as to how this is snagging/lining? Does this include plunking spin and glo's? It seems to me that if you juice up the yarn with some good scent, and plunk a corkie, this could be mistaken as bait? I don't know!!!!!!

[hustlerrjim]

there is a big difference between drifting and plunking corkeys,tried it myself, out of 15 chinook,only one was hooked in the head, and that was in the top of the head.

[Klick Steelies]

Thanks for the reply, but I was looking for a little more detail than that. Was that 1 out 15 plunking, or drift fishing? How is it that these fish are snagged/lined, I may be an idiot, but I do not see the correlation here!!! I am not trying to be difficult, and as I said earlier I do not plunk, I am just really looking for some honest information, as to how this is snagging.

[onstep]

To me this is a clear case of snagging or lining fish. Seems that every time I see these people do it in Hoquarten sp?, Dourghty,and the Salmon they hook'em in the motor (snagger lingo for tail)...

[Nanook]

Troy,

Got your email. Point of clarification. I am only complaining about the "criminals" who sit it tidewater holes (or elsewhere) and straight line on the bottom with double corkies and two hooks. They keep a tight line, and pull the trigger on anything that twitches. Watched this BS for years and 1 in 10 fish ratio in the beak IS NOT justification for doing it. There is none. Bite me, if someone thinks otherwise.

I drift fish for steelhead with a corkie and yarn myself. As per your email, I agree. BIG
difference. As for you scurvy dog pro-snaggers, again, don't do it in front of me repeatedly. You won't like it. images/icons/shocked.gif

Rick

[Get Bit]

****** & Jim,

Agree with you totally. Snaggers and nothing more. It just got me going when I read last Thursdays Oregonian about the guy catching fish in Trask tidewater with Corkies. Thought I would throw it out again and see how everyone else feels.Don't mean to beat a dead horse.
Get Bit

[Nookie Monster]

Oops. I just ran a topic along the same lines. Sorry.

[Vinny]

Klick S,
How's it going? I've been wondering how you've been doing on the Klick.

You mentioned something this afternoon about juicing up yarn with scent and a corkie, "might be mistaken as bait."
If you're talking about the fish making the mistake, could be.

As far as the regs are concerned scent is bait. images/icons/shocked.gif

You probably know that, and I haven't noticed "selective gear rules" in your neck of the woods. I just didnt'want you to miss that definition in the Washington regs.

[rob allen]

I agree with ******. Of course I wouldn't say that his viewpoint is a veiwpoint at all it is a statement of truthful fact. And if you disagree you are simply wrong!

Add steelhead to the mix or start drifting that corkie and the whole thing changes as was stated above.

Corkie tied behind the hook=snagger!

[Nanook]

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[happybrew]

Vinny: In Oregon, scent is not considered bait. I called ODFW last year with that question, and the lady I talked to said that it's not.

happybrew

[Klick Steelies]

Vinny, I am aware that scebt is bait according to the Washington Reg's. I drift fish corkie and yarn for winter steelhead. Which I do most of in Oregon. Have you been up to the Kilck recently? About this time of year I turn my attention to other areas away from there with the summer run winding down, and there being better opportunities at other places. I do know there are still fresh steelies available up that way though. I was up there the 5th and 6th of Oct., and we hooked 7 seven one evening. images/icons/grin.gif . Thank you all for clarifying for me the difference between drift fishing corkie and yarn and plunking it.

[DanS]

A corky on the bottom is only a snagging rig if the mainline is attached to a snagger. If any of you (rob) want me to demonstarte fair-hooking fish with such a rig, you can join me at Kennedy creek and watch the snaggers snag and fishermen fish with the same stationary corky off the bottom. You can tell the snaggers.....cast, and then jerk every 10 seconds. You can tell the fishermen.....cast, ignore line bumps, set the hook on a bite, and 3 of 4 fish are fair hooked. BTW: The snaggers will outnumber the fishers by a factor of 25-1.

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[Nanook]

Nah, no Holiday Inn Express near by, huh Rob? images/icons/grin.gif

[DanS]

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[Nanook]

Glad you smiled Dan.

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