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SandyRiverFisher
09-29-2001, 06:18 AM
Well, I finally got out of the house yesterday and did a little coho fishing. I started on the Lower Sandy but quickly realized it was going to be a no go. Talked to several anglers who had been at it for hours with no luck. Plenty if silvers rolling out there, and the water is a little milky, but the fish just arent biting. Of course, I didn't show up until 2:00, and I would imagine it would be a much better bet at first light.

Instead of wasting my time on the Sandy I high-tailed it up to Eagle Creek. Lots of cars parked along the One'O'clock rock stretch, so i went up and parked below the park on the road and walked down through the stretch above the first ladder. Plenty of fish around and they are moving. In four hours of fishing I saw three schools of thirty or more fish move past me in shallow water and then splash up into the next hole. Out of one of these schools I pulled a chrome little six pound hatchery hen, on a scented red corkie and yarn.

All in all I would say stay away from Eagle Creek for now. The fish are there, but they really arent biting good. EVERY other fisherman I saw was snagging. In fact, on my way out I stopped to talk to a state bull and give him the heads up to a bunch of snaggers I saw below the park. These guys were not even trying to hide the fact that they were snagging, using 4/0 hooks and double flourescent orange corkies and about a full ounce of lead. I stood there and watched a guy side-swipe a DARK buck and then scrammble to land it as quickly as possible, bonk it with a rock and then stand up to get his picture taken. The hole below these clowns had five or six guys standing elbow to elbow at the waters edge over top of a tiny little hole, all of them rearing back in unison. I talked to one of them who told me I should have been there yesterday, that the same group had landed between 80 and 100 fish from the same spot. I could tell from the dead fish and gut piles that he probably wasn't lying. Oh well, I told the state cop his location too. Hopefully they wont be there next time I go up to fish.

If we ever get some more rain I would say Eagle Creek is a good bet. Try hitting the pocket water if you go. Stay away from the deeper holes and you will still catch fish, but you will avoid the crowds and especially the snaggers.

NEUTRON
09-29-2001, 08:15 AM
SRF, sad story. Where the heck do these low lifes come from. How about an Ifish sting,
I have a video camera.

Fishin' Fool
09-29-2001, 09:42 AM
This sounds just like when I was at the Cowlitz near Toutle mouth 2 days this week. It's infuriating. Get ahold of the authorities on a cell if you can! And even take pictures of these jerks!

Deleted User
09-29-2001, 02:24 PM
SRF,
Im glad the wife showed up to give you a fishin break. If you caught a fish then it sounds to me like it was a productive trip.I am always saddend to hear about snaggers . That is gross! I hope they get busted. 80 fish is outrageous! Could you really see schools moving? Thats exciteing.

whitewaterbill
09-29-2001, 03:24 PM
Talked to a fish checker today when I pulled out at Caterpillar Island. He told me that they had a sting at Camp Kalama this week and took rods and even a boat and issued about 40 citations. He also said that the presure on snaggers will be stepped up.
I guess they can't be everywhere...But they are trying!!!

Bill

Smily
09-29-2001, 04:50 PM
Snaggers Disturb me. images/icons/mad.gif Okay, irratate me. I was out yesterday to the Mouth of the Sandy and seen a couple people just twitching there Rod In hopes of what you call Snagging. This was the first time I had witnessed it first hand. I would have liked to say something but I was alone with my 3 year old Daughter. Oh well. I think the Sting operations are a good idea for these people.
On a better note, when I arrived at the mouth I did get to watch one boat land a nice fish Legally. It looked like he was using a wobbler or Alvin? Of some sort. I trolled around a bit but had to go. The patients of a 3 yr old amazes me. But she did do reel good though.
Sandy River fisher, Good to see you around again.

images/icons/smile.gif Smily images/icons/smile.gif

SandyRiverFisher
09-29-2001, 08:25 PM
Hey all,

Thanks for all the replys, its nice to see that a lot of my peers are on the same side of the line as me when it comes to snagging fish. Sometimes when your out on the river you seriously feel like your in the minority. I like neutron's idea of a video camera sting. Even if a group of guys could get together and hit the river to fish and POLITELY discourage the snaggers I think it would go a long way towards reducing the problem. Those of us who dispise the practice need to be more vocal and let these guys know that what they are doing is not acceptable. For now I will keep letting the cops know where the snaggers like to hang out.

P.S., The cops love it when you get license plate numbers, for those of you who feel inclined to call in about snaggers.

FM2
09-29-2001, 09:10 PM
Snagging is a huge problem this year as many, many people have seen and posted. Maybe the next time out to a popular fishing hole that people are intentionally snagging fish, a person could suggest that "you heard the staters were watching this place for snaggers" that this might somewhat help slow these people down.

There has been many different tatics suggested but require risk to speak up, but maybe by insuitating the place might be watched, this might help to put some fear in the one's who are doing this. This is a psychological tatic that might put people on the watch or at least look over their shoulder if they heard a statement like this. This would not put the person initiating the statement at risk for making this statement thus not exposing them.

We need to somehow put some fear in those snagging as they also know there is a shortage of enforcement. We need to outsmart the perpatrators.

It's time to get creative!!

Navigator
09-29-2001, 11:06 PM
The bite turned on for a while on the lower Sandy this morning. I actually had two on. Lost 'em both. The first followed the super vibrax spinner (#4 - Orange Tiger) and struck 3 feet from the rod tip. More than I could handle. The second, a brighter coho, struck and zipped upriver (putting slack in line), jump and threw the spinner back images/icons/confused.gif. After a month without a bite, this is the way these fish treat me. Another long walk to the car (but a bad day fishing is still a great day). Fish were being caught. I saw one on a spinner and one from a guy in a small pontoon raft jigging metal jigs. He was not snagging but back bouncing this small metal jig. Another drift boat got one - don't know on what.

I too drove by Eagle Creek yesterday (9/28) at Bonnie Lure. No room to park so I move on to Barton Park. There were plenty of fish at Barton but no biters. Just a few fishermen though.

Everyone have a good week.

[ 09-29-2001: Message edited by: Navigator ]

letsfish
09-30-2001, 02:24 AM
Ah Navigator ! Let me guess, Big Bend.I was fishing the rocks on the other side. And the chap was not technically snagging but he sure did well "jigging".That last one he said was in the gills I don't know about thatbeing inhaled or snagged.
I caught a darkening nook and a jack between 11 and 12.And another guy on that side caught a nice nook.
would Oxbow or Dodge be more productive for the silvers? images/icons/confused.gif

Fishin Magician
09-30-2001, 02:51 PM
SRF~ hats off to you......We were on the upper Sandy friday night and saturday morning. We managed to land one nice chinook and 4 average silvers in those two outings. We also turned in a couple of bozos, they weren't trying to hide it either, What are these morons thinking??????? They had on the "typical" gear.......big treble and a couple yellow corkies with a 10" leader and a pound of lead. We watched them hook and lose a couple of fish so we decided to go down away from them. In the brush was a game officer with a video camera... images/icons/grin.gif images/icons/grin.gif images/icons/grin.gif . Video doesn't lie. Anyways we got 1 fish on a yellow panther martin #15 and the rest drifting fresh eggs. Nice way to turn 30 though...............John

BUGLEMAN
09-30-2001, 08:55 PM
NICEEEEE!!!!!!