Hog line Alert

[Z-Man]

I'm a newbe poster here, picked up some great info in the last couple of years, just don't take the time to reply alot...BUT...I feel strongly about this.

Today while at anchor with a couple of other boats in the Columbia near Columbia City, good wind gusts going...fairly choppy, I seen a boat in the line below me pull out..above his hog line...(i'm assuming the current had some effect on this) apparently wasn't watching his anchor bouy...he snagged the ancor line of the boat next to him...the snagged boat started to yell to get his attention..but he kept on going..the result was a capsized boat and luckily, only wet fishermen. I'm trying to apply logic here and explain this somehow...maybe strong winds? could'nt have been the current..it was getting slack...is this just plain old drunken stupidness? or just a product of being to close to another boat in the hog line? images/icons/confused.gif

[WheresMyBobber]

This accident could have been the result of several different things.

1) they could have been crossed anchored all day and not realized it. This is usually a result of inexperienced hogliners or people anchoring in the dark.

2) They could have been blown sideways when the anchor lifted off of the bottom and caught the anchor line next to them. This is usually the fault of the boat operater, not the person pulling the anchor.

3) they could have been pulling the anchor without using the center pulley which caused their boat to go to the side and catch the line next to them.

4) Drunkeness can definitely cause these kinds of problems.

5) They could have anchored too close in the first place.

This is not an uncommon problem by any means. Many times newcomers to hoglines get yelled at, and they think it is because everybody is a-holes. But the reality is that if you don't know what your're doing or lose concentration, very bad things can happen, just like you described.

AGAIN - TO POTENTIAL HOGLINERS. COMPLETELY LEARN THE TECHNIQUES BEFORE Y0U TRY TO DO IT ON YOUR OWN. I've seen some pretty stupid things out there before.

PS - No, I don't "walk on water". But I've never crossed anchored anybody or had a problem in a hogline in the many, many times I've sat in a hogline.

Good luck.

[HOGTIDE]

Remember, If you are anchoring with 300' of rope, you must go directly upstream nearly 600' before your anchor is pulled!.....then and only then, you can angle left or right and drag your setup sideways to drift back and retrieve.

If your anchor is not completely pulled and you motor sideways, you are simply dragging a heavy grappling hook over everyone elses lines!

Be alert!!! When your next door neighbor is in the pulling process, stand forward, prepared to throw off your own line, should he make a missteak...mistaake ..mistayk...ahhh, GOOF UP !!!

images/icons/confused.gif Hope it wasn't anyone I know. Spent the day in Hood River watching 10 hours of girls volleyball.GO ST. HELENS! TOURNAMENT CHAMPS!

[Pitch Pocket]

Probably only a small percentage of the inexperienced hog liners are reading this forum and the rest will be guessing about simply anchoring, much less in a hog line. Therefore, be defensive. Keep a very sharp knife near YOUR anchor line. If some numb-know starts to drag you under then take defensive measures and lose your anchor........fast.

[Tilla]

The wind does make it rather difficult to actually know where you are going to sit when the current picks up. Friday we had a boat slip in between another boat and myself making it rather uncomfortable. I had my kicker and my 200 jet keeping us straight until the tide kicked in and used the sea anchor and kicker only after that. After a bit we ended dragging anchor like a few others and had to reset. The angle of the rope looked suspicious after we reset but our position was good. When we pulled up (with our two "nooks) we did it by hand and sure enough my brothers complaint about the extra heavy anchor showed we hooked the adjacent boats anchor rope. Careful removal and a OK wave to the concerned other boat cleared up the situation. I am sure glad we didn't roar out of there like some pulling up the anchor with the motor and float. It's OK to be careful!

[fishchaser]

I am a pretty good anchorer in the river but Friday was really hard to get anchored. Especially in an incoming current, down around Trojan. We had a hard time and took in a good 25gls. of water over the transom.

I could have anchored going with the tide, but by the time the tide had turned 15 other boats would have been anchored down in the position in which I would have been Anchored images/icons/confused.gif As it was I was the second person to get anchored down and still had 4 other anchors over me when I picked up and left.

The one thing people do wrong is try to pull there anchor up with the anchor puller when you are 2 feet apart. YOU CAN'T DO THAT SAFELY!! People think that's what they built these pullers for. You can do it, just not SAFELY images/icons/frown.gif

[Mr.Kitch'nPass]

I have anchored in a few hog lines and have never had a problem. But after reading these posts I can see where I may have made a few mistakes. I will definitely be much more cautious in the future. Thanks for a lot of very helpful info guys!! images/icons/cool.gif

[Nanook]

If it doubt and in close quarters, run up slowly and straight and PULL IT BY HAND!