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BARCHASER
08-08-2007, 11:34 AM
While I'm sitting around waiting for my next fishing trip next week, I'm just wondering what is your biggest gripe about the current crop of boat makers. I dont mean big issues like motors, offshore mounts etc, but those irritating little things.

Mine is the plug in, plug out anchor light on my NR Seahawk. Mounted on the starboard rear of the boat it is subject to salt water corrosion and I'm always spraying it with WD40 to get it to work. Sometimes I forget to plug it in when I'm leaving in the dark and I have to stop the boat and mess around with it. When it is up, it is in the way of the downriggers. Should be a better way. Maybe a light mounted on the top of the windshield frame that would fold to the right or left when not in use. To use it, you would simply fold it upright and good to go. No issues on forgetting to plug the thing in or if it works or not.

Maybe I'm just anal retentive, but it bugs me!

Tacklebuster
08-08-2007, 11:41 AM
That really bugs me as well. Besides the corrosion, it seems to only work half the time then jiggles the right way to make it stop working. I found a cool little back light at Englund Marine in Astoria. It is a bright light that you can just mount on your rail or wherever you like and it runs off batts. Perfect.... threw the other hunk a junk in the garbage.

The other thing that bugs me about aluminum boats is the "so called" fish boxes. I just don't see why they don't come insulated so they can be real fish boxes.

Boatdog
08-08-2007, 11:47 AM
The lights and fishbox are good ones. :applause:

But then there is the worthless analog fuel gauge... :hoboy:

Gundog
08-08-2007, 11:52 AM
Lack of tackle storage and good pole storage is my biggest gripe but I agree with the non insulated fish boxes.
Mike

MattPark
08-08-2007, 11:53 AM
I can't stand fuel spitting out when filling up. My fishing boat does it, the ski boat does it, the jet ski does it, and so do all of my friends boats. Is it THAT hard to design a filler neck that will actually shut off before half a gallon of fuel spits out? It's especially annoying when I'm headed out to fish, I've found nothing that promotes gasoline as a good scent for your bait/lure.

Sure, you can sit there for 10 minutes trying to fill the last 1/4 of the tank without fuel spilling out, but I just don't have the patience for that.

I can't complain about my fishbox too much, it's not insulated, but holds ice very well when compared to some other fish boxes.

IDWITHELD
08-08-2007, 12:02 PM
Oh, where to begin:

1. I'm no expert but I don't think the moisture fogging up the instrumentation is making the gauges any more accurate. In February, I can't even see the RPM's or oil pressure! How about some sealed gauges?

2. I have a canvas top. The snaps for rolling up your top have holes in them like rivits. Why would you locate these snaps directly centered over the front air ride seats. Every rain storm causes drips directly on my head and my passengers head.
3. The under-bow access doors use cheap, under-sized hinges. The door eventually sags and binds up with the window step. Needs a piano hinge, not cheapie music box hinges.
4. Under-gunnel rod storage is open to the elements. Why are there no water drain holes for those of us who have no choice but to store outdoors? I got lake superior in the boat after a good storm.

Gr8waves
08-08-2007, 12:55 PM
The front gunnel mounted cleat being placed just perfectly in relation to the windshield that the only way to reach it is to unzip the top and walk into the bow area, then lean out over the water just to attach a bumber or dock line.

backlash442
08-08-2007, 01:26 PM
I guess my analog fuel gauge on my Seahawk. Thing is so worthless I might as well not even have it. It can be 1/4 full at a gas station but on the water at the dock it's full. If I went by that it'd never seem to burn fuel. I wish.

Only other gripe is that the bulkhead between the bow and cabin is not sealed. How the heck can you make a boat supposedly built for saltwater and not have that sealed off? Water can easily work it's way in and all the gauges and wires are exposed. Understand the newer models don't have this though.

Lastly, it porpoises but that's really a very minor gripe.

No Time
08-08-2007, 01:42 PM
The front gunnel mounted cleat being placed just perfectly in relation to the windshield that the only way to reach it is to unzip the top and walk into the bow area, then lean out over the water just to attach a bumber or dock line.
:yeahthat: I figured my front gunnel cleats were for "looks" - I seldom use them

What about those aftermarket products with a different footprint than the previous year's model?
I have the same corrosion issue with the anchor light socket so I replaced it with the same brand as old one but he screw holes did not line up and I needed to drill new ones. Last month my “Shakespeare brand” antenna mount broke so I bought a new Shakespeare antenna mount, guess what the mounting holes did not line up either. I found a different brand that did match however.

#1 Okie
08-08-2007, 01:57 PM
The price you have to pay to set one up the way you want it after you break the bank to buy the boat.

RiverMan
08-08-2007, 03:38 PM
Boy you guys have gotten a bunch of them.....I guess mine would be fighting with the snaps on the soft top, particularly when it's cold outside, miserable! The other one would be the lack of good storage areas and thought put into what a fisherman might want/need.

RM:meme::meme:

Flatfish
08-08-2007, 04:45 PM
Boats are generally a swell thing. Trailer lights, not so much.

uhmw
08-08-2007, 05:03 PM
They are netoriously slowwwww to pay vendors..

Tacklebuster
08-08-2007, 05:04 PM
Boats are generally a swell thing. Trailer lights, not so much.

Ah yes..... My favorite are the LED submersibles.... Bout as waterproof as a peanut butter and bannana sandwich after about 6 months.

StickFish
08-08-2007, 05:40 PM
Ah yes..... My favorite are the LED submersibles.... Bout as waterproof as a peanut butter and bannana sandwich after about 6 months.

Mine have been pretty good on my cheesy loader, but then its not as high a mileage as Almost Perfect. Course Chris you seem to break stuff any way ;)

My gripe is the snap fasteners on the canvas covers over access holes on my Lund. Like under the bow and the forward battery er life jacket cubbies. The things are cheap, bend and pull out resulting in canvas covers that aren't anymore. That is a project this summer to build hatches.

Ya the fuel gauge is useless, when it says E that means I have 1/2 a tank left

I also gotta tell you that interlock on the throttle/shift control perfect place for a wire tie.

Last but not least the kill switch. I see the point on a open tiller boat, but a windshield boat - who, come on, who actually uses the thing? Ditch!

Jason S
08-08-2007, 06:08 PM
Mine have been pretty good on my cheesy loader, but then its not as high a mileage as Almost Perfect. Course Chris you seem to break stuff any way ;)

My gripe is the snap fasteners on the canvas covers over access holes on my Lund. Like under the bow and the forward battery er life jacket cubbies. The things are cheap, bend and pull out resulting in canvas covers that aren't anymore. That is a project this summer to build hatches.

Ya the fuel gauge is useless, when it says E that means I have 1/2 a tank left

I also gotta tell you that interlock on the throttle/shift control perfect place for a wire tie.

Last but not least the kill switch. I see the point on a open tiller boat, but a windshield boat - who, come on, who actually uses the thing? Ditch!

Only use I have for it is to pull it when I leave the boat at the dock. Pull the one on the kicker also. Besides taking the keys it is an added theft prevention.

My biggest grip is canvas over the walkthrough. Can't resnap it underway because it is too tight. But don't want it to be loose enough to resnap either because then the canvas looks loose and dumpy. Wish they could come up with something better so you can seal that off and yet still eb able to access the bow underway.

Also wish my NR Seahawk fish boxes were insulated.

fish_on
08-08-2007, 06:19 PM
The other thing that bugs me about aluminum boats is the "so called" fish boxes. I just don't see why they don't come insulated so they can be real fish boxes.

The lights and fishbox are good ones. :applause:



Lack of tackle storage and good pole storage is my biggest gripe but I agree with the non insulated fish boxes.
Mike

Stay tuned for a solution to the fish box problem ;) :D

Not enough zinc and the transom mounted kicker bracket is too high to give you a useful reverse when backing into a swell.

luckyr
08-08-2007, 08:38 PM
My scout has a storage cabinet in the back which opens towards the front. So when you are going about 30mph the wind will catch it and it slams into the motor. It will also launch a cell phone. All I have to do is remember to latch it. The smaller fish box drains into the hull.

Magnum
08-08-2007, 09:13 PM
My biggest minor gripe is why have a windshield boat if the darn window door doesn't seal & lets a ton of water through it every time it rains or I take splash water over the bow. I still get soaked anyway. I've tried to seal it as best I can, but 1/4" here & 1/8" there then 1/16" over hear, then back to 1/4". Yeah, pain in the rear!

Rubber Boot
08-08-2007, 09:19 PM
How about those high dollar electrical switches on Alluaweld SuperVees!!! Open sled with switches that are not water tight so they short out if you take any water on.....Priceless!. Or even better...The cheap plastic gas cap the is not water tight so you can contaminate your fuel when it rains. $25,000 boats with 39 cent cheap parts, Ill buy a North River next time,

Flatfish
08-08-2007, 09:27 PM
$25,000 boats with 39 cent cheap parts, Ill buy a North River next time,

I hate to bear bad news here, but NR cuts a few corners too. The devil is indeed in the details.

Bluto
08-08-2007, 09:33 PM
Fishbox overflow - it's located in the bow just above water line, so a good swell puts water in the box (not a lot, but can't keep it a "dry box" when needed). The box itself is well constructed & plenty big for lots of fish, crab, etc..., but overflow design should be moved to side.

EZ-Loader LED's for sure. Just had them send me (another) free pair last week.

Water Spedos. Have calibrated both (Suzi & Lowrance) multiple times, but still doesn't come close to GPS speed through entire speed range.

Flatfish
08-08-2007, 09:56 PM
Unnecessary thru hull fittings below the waterline.

Bolted trailers

Plastic fenders

Aluminum trailers in place of galvenized steel.

Cheap brake components on expensive trailers

Drum brakes on saltwater trailers

Production manufacturers who charge as much or more than the custom guys.

Gas tanks that are only vented in one direction

Anything but shift in the handle on kickers

the price of new outboards

Lowrance

fishkisser
08-08-2007, 11:58 PM
Gee ... I guess I don't have much to gripe about as far as my Rogue Marine Scrambler I/B but water always seems to be trapped under the padded doghouse cover...:wave:

Lighthouse
08-09-2007, 01:47 AM
The fuel tank, guage, and filler are a joke, a fuel gauge that reads everything your fuel level can be, just not what it really is, great for those times up river or when near a bar during an outgoing tide:frown:, you'ld think that they would have a dependable fuel guage that was actually reliable just for safety reasons, considering how much aluminum boats sell for.

When the gas overflows when I fill the tank I quickly dillute the gas on the paint with water (thank god for clear coat) laugh and shake my head at the engineering and cheapness, I love my Alumaweld Intruder, but engineers, sometimes you have to go against the grain of the cheapness to create a great reliable product. Could you imagine a brand new $15,000 car that would continously spit out gas at the pump and had a gas guage that would swing from empty to full while you were driving! and fog up to boot! can you say recall, and the boat cost way more than that just for comparison.

I remounted my gas cap so that it swings open towards the back just so that the gas pump nozle will insert further in, minimizing the spilage and doesn't break the gas cap hinge, don't say "well the wind will keep it open while trailering in the rain if not shut properly". Check that the gas cap clicks close (not to mention it does not have a key lock:frown:)just like you would check that you are hitched properly before trailering.

Another great approval and decision from the factory is the leaking winshield and top. What's a wishield and full canvas top for if it rains inside anyway leaking in between the winshield and top while motoring in the rain.

Sorry for the rant, and thanks for this thread, for now I will feel a little bit better when I untrustingly fill my boat up at the gas station or when my family and I are getting rained on in a full canvas top while underway in the rain in a $40,000 boat:hoboy:. For the engineers, I believe that these are important comfort and safety issues that should seriously be considered. "think family/little ones for winshield boats" everyone knows that family is the reason there are winshielded boat fishermen.

Tacklebuster
08-09-2007, 05:08 AM
How about those high dollar electrical switches on Alluaweld SuperVees!!! Open sled with switches that are not water tight so they short out if you take any water on.....Priceless!. Or even better...The cheap plastic gas cap the is not water tight so you can contaminate your fuel when it rains. $25,000 boats with 39 cent cheap parts, Ill buy a North River next time,

Ah yes.... The cheap plastic gas caps that vent. That stupid thing cost me a thousand dollars, two tows back to the ramp, and more frustration than I care to go through again.

Dustin,
Keep me posted on the fish box solution.

backlash442
08-09-2007, 07:53 AM
Interesting about the gas cap/vent. My Seahawk which is an 02 has a nice heavy screw in type. I'm not sure what it's made out of but it's at least chrome plated. I've never had an issue with water getting in or gas coming out. Wonder if NR tried to save a few bucks as they got bigger.

BARCHASER
08-09-2007, 10:41 AM
I encountered the gas tank volcano for the first time last week at Ucluelet. My buddy was filling it and it threw out a stream of gas two feet high! Got into his eyes. Dangerous. The gas guy was ready. He had a pretty slick cup and eye cleaner thing that did the job. No wonder this particular gas dock wont fill the boat for you, you have to pump it. NR really needs to fix that.

fish_on
08-09-2007, 01:08 PM
The solution I have found to the fuel burp is to take paper towels and wrap them around the nozzle. Wrap several layers so when you stick it in the filler you can wedge the towel in. When it burps the towel blocks it from coming out and absorbs it before it gets on the boat. Since I have gone to this method I no longer have any fuel spilled out the filler. It still shoots out the vent in the back but oh well.

MikeN
08-09-2007, 01:26 PM
1. gas guage is useless

2. worthless snaps on the top which are claimed to be the best in the industry

3. having to pay extra $ for disc brakes on the trailer--they should be standard as drum brakes are worthless!

4. boat won't take gas without having the bow down and saying a prayer before sticking nozzle in. Why is it so hard to put $3.00 a gallon gas into a tank? I don't fight my car or truck to put gas in. I hate getting gas all over the back of the boat and my hands.

I have learned to gas up the day before or right after my trips to avoid this!

Merch
08-09-2007, 01:39 PM
My biggest gripe would be not having a boat at all. I couldn't deal with not being able to go to the garage and see my boat out there and dream of the water and fishing.

Although, I would have to second everyone who mentioned fuel caps and filling and anything electrical on a trailer.

To minimize most of my gipes I simplified everything, sold the boat with internal fuel tanks and tough to reach wiring and got a basic boat that has go and stop.

Merch

Dinikin
08-09-2007, 10:16 PM
It does NOT catch a fish

pugetplunker
08-10-2007, 07:00 AM
my gripe is with my old boat.the windshield was just low enough when running with the top down all that wind stripped off my hair on the center of my head:bigshock:.now where did i put my hat and the bottle of rogaine:grin:

Phil Layer
08-10-2007, 08:01 AM
Were all of these boats designed by 5'3" people? I'm 6'1" and have multiple head scars from banging on the roof when entering/exiting the cabin or the deck.

I'm seriously considering wearing a hard hat from now on.

Salmonid
08-10-2007, 11:31 AM
How about no drains in the side trays? When cleaning the boat after a day on the water, the side trays fill up with water. It would be nice if there was a drain near the transom to let the water get to the bilge. I had to drill holes myself.

garyk
08-10-2007, 11:43 AM
From my experience with a Hewescraft Searunner:

1. Rubber Boot beat me to it, but yes - those console electrical switch panels built with non-waterproof switches. The manufacturers ought to be ashamed!

2. In open-bow boats, making the scupper holes way too small.

3. Not applying a final protective clear-coat over the Zolatone to seal it against stains.

4. Not adequately prepping the aluminum prior to painting causing poor paint adhesion.

gideeyup
10-24-2007, 08:50 PM
Just came across this post. Great suggestions. Anymore suggestions for the persons possibly looking to eventually maybe we hope upgrade in size and features from our 2005 19ft T-jet

rob allen
10-24-2007, 09:03 PM
My biggest gripe is a poor hole shot when the boats loaded with 2 guys and gear.. The engine a Johnson 200 hp GT just doesn't get it's rpms up quickly ( working too hard?) anyway once i get it up on the water she'll cruise around all day at 60mph so I am mostly happy but a 225 HO E-tec sure sounds nice... My biggest gripe is actually with other boats making wakes that disrupt my day.. after all at 60 mph my boat hardly makes any wake at all :)

MattPark
10-24-2007, 09:39 PM
My biggest gripe is a poor hole shot when the boats loaded with 2 guys and gear.. The engine a Johnson 200 hp GT just doesn't get it's rpms up quickly ( working too hard?) anyway once i get it up on the water she'll cruise around all day at 60mph so I am mostly happy but a 225 HO E-tec sure sounds nice... My biggest gripe is actually with other boats making wakes that disrupt my day.. after all at 60 mph my boat hardly makes any wake at all :)

Sounds to me like your boat is way overpropped.

rob allen
10-24-2007, 11:46 PM
overproped??? can you explain please??

SOL
10-25-2007, 12:20 AM
If you are getting 60mph but can't get out of the hole with 2 guys, you have the wrong prop. Check your RPMs at WOT and make sure you are in the right range for the motor. Im guessing 5,000-6,000RPM at WOT.

Sounds like you need more pitch.

ET
10-25-2007, 01:18 AM
If you are getting 60mph but can't get out of the hole with 2 guys, you have the wrong prop. Check your RPMs at WOT and make sure you are in the right range for the motor. Im guessing 5,000-6,000RPM at WOT.

Sounds like you need more pitch.

Actually he needs a prop with less pitch for better hole shot.

My minor boat gripe is the windshield wiper motor that costs $150, looks like it should cost $5 and performs like it should be free.

Starfish
10-25-2007, 06:32 AM
Actually he needs a prop with less pitch for better hole shot.

:yeahthat:
Hole shot is definitely a prop issue, almost never a boat issue... although not necessarily requiring a lower pitch prop. For example Merc props come with a PVS vent system that allows exhaust gases to ventilate the prop at low RPMs and let the prop spin up to higher RPM before hooking up. You can tune the amount of slippage by installing small, medium, large, or plugged vent inserts. I actually prefer running them mostly plugged on my boat, but every boat is different. You can run just about any brand prop on any brand motor with the proper adaptor, so check around at a boat shop.

For sure going to a lower pitch prop will help the hole shot though.

SOL
10-25-2007, 08:29 AM
I always get confused which way... less pitch it is!

xdynamite
10-25-2007, 01:19 PM
It seem as if every 2 years I have to replace the steering cable. I have an inboard jet so all the seats, engine cover and floors have to come out. Someone needs to come up with a cable that doesent collect moisture and rust inside the sleeve. That would be great :yay:

timinthegorge
10-25-2007, 03:36 PM
Good stuff guys.... You've covered most all my "minor boat gripes."

Never really knowing how much fuel I have, unless I've just filled up.

Filling up and having to stand there, with my ear (and nose) close to the nozzle, slowly trickling in the gas with the pump handle so I can hear it, so it doesn't "volcano" on me. (I like the wrapping of paper towels around the nozzle idea.)

Not being able to lock the gas tank? What's that about?

Not being able to re-snap my cover above the door if I've had to unbutton it to drop anchor, pull up bumpers, etc. And if I Have unbuttoned it, when I run it sags into the boat and rain is channeled inside, furthering the condensation problem on the inside of the windows.

Frozen fingers trying to snap the side curtains on when it's near or below 32 degrees. Always a joy......

The always failing anchor/night lights. I too have gone with clip-ons that run on batteries. I don't use them that often, but when I need 'em I know they'll work....

Scuppers that are WAY too small..... Why?

And then there's the hinges on the center opening windshield. How much would a piano hinge have increased the cost of manufacturing? $20???

I did switch out my trailer lights to LED's about 4 years ago, and haven't had an issue since...... so no gripe there......

One that hasn't been addressed...... the fact that my boat sits in her steel boat barn, while I'm working, instead of fishing...... :frown:

bluebackbil
10-25-2007, 03:43 PM
my tj doesn't have any drains in the floor. when i hose it out the water sits in it until it seeps through the floor boards and the mess is still there

Pilar
10-30-2007, 01:32 PM
Make dymo label for your fuel gage that says

'Battery Voltage'.

The real deal costs about $300 and is made by Flo Scan. Gallons per hour and total burned. I always know within a gallon how much fuel we have burned. And the flow rate is a good way to trim the boat for max economy.

My gripe would be that boats absorb money at a staggering pace.

Wiring and switches are an ongoing problem. ABYC says use ring terminals yet every boat I wire electronics on, mostly recent new, use push on spade type terminals. Can anyone guess why this is bad?

The other thing I see over and over again is a pile of red wires on a battery terminal or battery switch terminal. A real terminal bus bar works so much better. Only $30 more for that.

The last thing is access. You have to have adequate access to maintain and repair your boat. Access does not include standing on your head to fix something.

Zeke
10-30-2007, 03:20 PM
Last but not least the kill switch. I see the point on a open tiller boat, but a windshield boat - who, come on, who actually uses the thing? Ditch!

The kill switch is a requirement for most tournaments. Also, I once took a ride with a guy who'd just put his brand new boat in the water at my marina. The dealer's rigger didn't screw the steering cable nut to the engine mount more than about 3/4 turn. Going down the lake at about 50 mph it pulled off the threads. The sudden 90 degree turn that resulted just about threw both of us out of the boat. Luckily the driver was a tournament fisherman in the habit of using his kill switch and when his butt left the seat it killed the engine. I think the dealer ended up with a sore jaw.:redface:

jfa686
10-31-2007, 11:07 AM
boat launches

Boats
10-31-2007, 01:42 PM
boat launches

????

Boat launches are great entertainment! :)

Zeke
10-31-2007, 03:05 PM
While I'm sitting around waiting for my next fishing trip next week, I'm just wondering what is your biggest gripe about the current crop of boat makers. I dont mean big issues like motors, offshore mounts etc, but those irritating little things.

Mine was and is boat manufacturers and dealers who mount hardware on a fiberglass hull with wood or sheet metal screws rather than bolts with nuts. The fittings invariably pull out eventually and then you have holes and cracks to repair.

SayiWon't
10-31-2007, 08:31 PM
I'll second the screw issue. Brand new boat and they treaded the .125 aluminum to hold the anchor nest down instead of threw bolting. Those stripped out in the fist week. Not good when the anchor nest falls off the front of the boat.

jfa686
11-01-2007, 01:09 PM
????

Boat launches are great entertainment! :)
so is court tv....just would rather not be on it..hence my boat slip in the summer:cheers:

SouthCoastStu
11-01-2007, 08:16 PM
My biggest gripe: carpet in a fishin' boat :passout:

fish-on-bend
11-05-2007, 07:45 PM
So gettin back to the issue of gas gauges and fuel filling issues, seriously why can't they make a gas gauge and tank that:shrug: works as well as a car's?

Hell-B
11-06-2007, 05:36 AM
Just replaced the gas tank in my predator. New tank has internal vents at both ends of tank. They come together into a common line outside the tank. Will now fill at any angle w/o burping. So someone has come up with a better idea! How long it takes everyone to do this is probably a different story.
Now the gas gauge is still same old story. I hate it when I have a full tank the day before and as I'm approaching the bar, my gauge is flashing red. Always makes me wonder if someone siphoned my gas during the night. Not a good thought.

1pump
11-06-2007, 08:17 AM
Yeah, the gas gauge thing is confounding. But in defense of the boat builders, the gas sloshes around violently in the tank no matter how well it's baffled. However, there's gotta be a better way, and some gauges are so bad that they're not even accurate on the trailer.
Big trucks have the same problem. Talk to an experienced truck driver, and he/she will tell you they've never seen a reliable fuel gauge.

Tacklebuster
11-07-2007, 05:26 AM
Fuel Flow meter will only satisfy the gas guage gripe. The filling issue however is absurd. Why gas has to shoot 6 inches in the air and run all over your boat and the pavement is beyond me:hoboy:

SouthCoastStu
11-08-2007, 08:50 PM
New tank has internal vents at both ends of tank. They come together into a common line outside the tank. Will now fill at any angle w/o burping. So someone has come up with a better idea! How long it takes everyone to do this is probably a different story.


:bnews: Alumaweld has been doing this for years.

Gas guage is still just a waste of space on the dash though :jester:

bluebackbil
11-09-2007, 09:54 AM
My brothers got a '19 Arima Sea ranger. the gas gauge sucks, as it does on my TJ. However , he has a sight glass on his tank and he can tell at a glance how much fuel he has left. wish I had one.

BARCHASER
11-15-2007, 10:24 AM
New gripe. My North River has pedistal seats with a gas shock absorber. The shock absorber assembly on the drivers seat only lasted 2 years and 2 months. I was charged 120 bucks to fix it. Me thinks I paid too much. Seems like it should last longer than that. Next time I'll look around a little more to get it fixed.

Tacklebuster
11-21-2007, 06:11 AM
On my first NR before I got the Mariner seats, I had the same junk shock absorber seats you speak of. Mine lasted 1 week.....

Speaking of seats... I hate the fact that most seats (suspension) comes without any protection at all. If you don't treat them, they end up riddled with rust after a season. I spray mine every winter with corrosion block, that stuff is gold.

I guess the only other minor deal is the motor manual. I wish you got a real manual with part lists and the such instead of a memo that covers the generic stuff.

BARCHASER
11-21-2007, 11:44 AM
Speaking of owners manuals, I've always wondered why they dont give out a manual for the boat. Seems like a manual would help with things like electric schematic, parts list, protecting the finish, maintaining the seats etc. But I havent seen one at least North River didnt give me one for my 2005 model. Legal liability issue maybe?

fish_on
11-21-2007, 02:22 PM
I asked North River for a wiring diagram of my boat. They said sorry they don't exist, sure would be nice to have one.

Speaking of owners manuals, I've always wondered why they dont give out a manual for the boat. Seems like a manual would help with things like electric schematic, parts list, protecting the finish, maintaining the seats etc. But I havent seen one at least North River didnt give me one for my 2005 model. Legal liability issue maybe?

Gr8waves
11-26-2007, 11:32 AM
I asked North River for a wiring diagram of my boat. They said sorry they don't exist, sure would be nice to have one.


Stevens told me the same thing when I asked for a wiring diagram for my Stryker.

timinthegorge
11-26-2007, 02:54 PM
Stevens told me the same thing when I asked for a wiring diagram for my Stryker.

Same here, but frankly, I'm not too surprised. Every new boat comes off the lot rigged differently, depending on which electronics and accessories were ordered.... They would have to keep track of how every boat they sold was rigged, and that'd cost bucks, as well as being a possible liability issue, as mentioned above....

stream2.5
12-18-2007, 05:49 PM
only schamatic available is for the controll box and related engine wiring from the engine manufacture..

stream2.5
12-18-2007, 05:51 PM
my bigest minor gripe is that last mph... everything else is more of an annoyance

Rescue3
12-29-2007, 08:08 AM
I have a potential fix for those with fuel gauge issues. I've replaced all my sending units with one that looks like this:

http://www.wemausa.com/images/SSSRRS124323.jpg Most look like this: http://image.sportsmansguide.com/dimage/123629_ts.JPG?cell=200,200&cvt=jpeg

The accuracy is excellent and wiring is identical to any analog gauge (you don't need to change your gauge in other words). I haven't found a local supplier but they are available online. Measure the depth of your tank and subtract 1" to determine the size you need. Cost runs between $40-60 or thereabouts.

stream2.5
12-29-2007, 11:01 AM
fuel gauge in my boat is to accurate..... when it hits the bottom side of the E line its out......

5 Salt
12-30-2007, 07:57 AM
Gas Fill.
Nav Lights burn out too quickly.
Fuel economy
Drum brakes