UPDATE! More help needed. Newport charters.

[nashby]

I'm new and need educating. We're coming to the Oregon coast for the first time on July 28. We'll be in the Newport/Depoe Bay area and want to do some charter fishing. I understand that the Coho will probably be done by then. If not, do we have the best chance of success in fishing for coho or chinook? Do most people catch fish or is there a real good chance of getting skunked? I've found several charter operators but have no idea of who's best/cheapest or both. Can anyone give me some recommendations. I also have a 17 year old daughter that loves to fish but gets car sick. What are the chances of giving her some Bonine and making it through an ocean fishing trip without having her chum for fish all day?

UPDATE!! Help needed again!
I'm coming to the well of knowledge again. I called the South Beach Marina Store. Ken Peterson and the Irish are not available on the date that we wanted to go. They also informed me that he doesn't have downrigger equipment. I was told by someone else that downrigger equipment is best when going for the chinook. Is this true. Southbeach recommended I go with Dan Snell and the Smokee because he has downrigger equipment. Can anyone out there give me any feedback on this captain and this boat?

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[Hookset]

Your likely correct about the coho finishing up by then. The season for coho runs through July 31, last year closed early but the quota is increased for this season, chinook will still be open.

If your daughter gets car sick, the odds are not good making it through a trip. I know people who use dramamine and the transderm scop patch and still get sick.

As for charters, I'd book from Newport. I do have a favorite, might be a little more expensive then the rest, but he's got excellent gear and tackle, fishes more like a sport boat and limits the people. Have to book early to get on. Call the South Beach Store and Charters at 1-541-867-4470, ask to book on the Irish. Wonder if they'll give me a discount for mentioning this? images/icons/smile.gif

Check this page to stay current with the catch rate. Salmon Sport Catch (http://www.hmsc.orst.edu/odfw/salmon/salsportcatch.html)

best of luck,

Gregg

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[brshooter]

I too would recommend getting on the Irish out of South Beach Marina Store. The owner of the boat, (I think his name is Ken Peterson)is a first class guy. I have fished with him many times. This time of year, the bottom fishing is usually pretty good. Last year it cost $65 per fisherman. For an extra $10, they will throw out the crab pots on the way out. Last year, when we did this trip, the wife and I brought back two limits of sea bass and 19 legal crab.

[AllThumz]

I'll second what br and hookset said, and add that Terry on the Umatilla II and Lee on the Blue Pacific will get you into fish.

The cost for bottom fishing this year is also $65.

When we went halibut fishing on the Blue Pacific, it took 13 hours to limit the boat, but Lee and the deckhands really turned to and got us into fish.

Check out Newport Marina Charters (http://www.newportmarinacharters.com)

Good luck.

John images/icons/smile.gif

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[Hookset]

I know the Irish and the Umatilla II. Which boat is the Blue Pacific? Is it the one usually parked next to the Irish or accross near the Umatilla. Minds drawing a blank right now.

[SteelieSteve]

I've always used Tradewinds charters out of Depoe Bay. always caught fish except once.

[AllThumz]

hookset: the Irish was tied up at the first slip, and the Blue Pacific was right behind it. It was also a good place to watch the activity at the ramp. What was supposed to be a fishing trip looked more like a boat race at first!

John images/icons/smile.gif

[Orca]

nashby,

The last few days, Charter folks have been getting at least 1 Coho each, with Saturday being better and they were getting close to 2 fish limits if not limiting everyone. Luck gives some boats better catches than others even if they are in the same spot. The Skippers are good, and getting skunked isn't likely.

Heed previous advice to let the fish hit it a couple times, don't jerk real hard to set the hook, and reel fast always. If it feels like the fish got off, don't let up, keep the pressure on until you see your bait or lure and there is no fish attached. Let the drag do the work, and just keep reeling.

I fished with my brother the last few days, and he lost 2 or 3 times the number of fish I did because he felt slack line and assumed the fish had gotten off so he quit reeling. The fish will run for the boat and you will think you lost them. I caught a 20 lb Chinook on Saturday that felt like a Coho running for the boat. I kept the pressure on, and when he hit the surface about 5 yards back and saw the boat, he took off stripping line and the fight was on. Also, keep a tight bend in the rod when you have them to the boat to be netted, any slack here and the fish may be gone.

For your daughter, try Bonine the night before, then in the morning of the trip. My brother always got sick using Dramamine the morning of the trip, until someone told him to use it the night before also (and he switched to Bonine, to reduce the drowsiness). Now he does fine. As a testiment to the method, he screwed up and forgot to take Bonine on Wednesday night, and took one the prescribed 1 hour before we launched Thursday, and he was one sick puppy. Seas were rough Thursday, but no worse than our 32 mile Halibut trip that he survived. From seeing his experience, I think if the seas are pretty decent, and you have your daughter take Bonine the night before and in the morning I think she will make it. If she is willing, I would give it a shot, because it has allowed my brother to keep ocean fishing where it seemed hopeless before.

[nashby]

You have all been really great with these responses. I can't thank you enough. I am going to try and contact South Beach Store and Carters this morning and book on the Irish. My daughter wants to give it a try and the advice to try Bonine the night before sounds like a good one, so that will be the game plan. Any additional information would be helpful but I can't thank you all enough for the help. May you all catch more fish than you know what to do with.

[AllThumz]

I'm booked for a trip tomorrow morning on the Umatilla II with the brother-in-law and his grandson. He'll be taking a bonine before bed tonight and probably another half in the moring before boarding the boat.

He went fishing with grandpa last week and they caught a chinook with 1 too many fins images/icons/frown.gif . He then said that he wants to go on a boat that has a real skipper images/icons/shocked.gif .

I'll post a report when we return.

John images/icons/smile.gif

[ol tuna skipper]

I still have problems getting green around around the gills. Here are my rules for the big blue.

Do not drink the night before. Alcohol that is.

Take dramamine or other the night before then again 1 hour before boarding.

It is best to have some food in your stomach. Dry heaves are a lot worse than just getting rid of breakfast.

Drink fluids on board, force em down as dry heaves hurt.

I take plenty of dramamine on board and eat one every hour or two depending on the roughness of the ocean. I have been the only one on board not sick at times doing this.

Try not to sit in the rear of the boat as the deisel fumes in salt water get me green quickly.

Best of luck.

[boater]

get a good nights sleep, it helps alot. and dont stare at the waves, look around alot.

[AllThumz]

nashby: I'm moving your update to the top so someone may be able to help.

UPDATE!! Help needed again!
I'm coming to the well of knowledge again. I called the South Beach Marina Store. Ken Peterson and the Irish are not available on the date that we wanted to go. They also informed me that he doesn't have downrigger equipment. I was told by someone else that downrigger equipment is best when going for the chinook. Is this true. Southbeach recommended I go with Dan Snell and the Smokee because he has downrigger equipment. Can anyone out there give me any feedback on this captain and this boat?

John images/icons/smile.gif

[Hookset]

That's to bad about the Irish. They usually book solid for weekends and lots of days during the week. What I don't understand is the no downriggers. I was over there a week ago from last Friday and checked the boat out. There were 2 cannon downriggers mounted on the back, can't imagine why the store would say different.

I'm not familiar with Dan Snell or the Smokee, never heard of or seen this boat before. Maybe someone else knows.

You can catch chinooks without downriggers. Downriggers can make it easier if your marking fish and adjust depths to target them.

I'm at a lose on what to recommend. I've fished a few other charter companies, the good ones are still in business. A buddy at work likes Trade Winds out of Newport. Don't remember which boat it was, but the skipper did everything he could to catch us Tuna.

I'd still fish from Newport, chinook are around and good skippers should have them dialed in. Just don't expect fishing to be like silvers, the nooks are fewer in numbers.

Gregg

[Orca]

To target Chinook, downriggers are the way to go. You could do it with divers, but it is more difficult, but it can certainly be done.

The Smokee should have as good of luck as the rest. I have seen him fishing in the areas that we have been catching fish, right along with a number of other charters. Don't exactly recall if they were netting a bunch of fish or not.

The South Beach Charters should all be pretty much talking back and forth between each other when one of them finds fish. If the Irish gets into fish, he will let the other guys know.

As of July 8th, 50% of the Coho catch is done. It looks like we may get to fish Coho the rest of the month unless it gets really red hot or a whole bunch more people go out.

[bob b]

I've tried everything ol tuna skipper recomends and been so sick it would take 2 days to recover. As a last resort tried transderm scop,for me it was like a miracle. After perscription cost is $10 per patch, apply the night before and patch should last 3 days. Everyone is different but for me side effects were minimal. The first time I used the patch I could eat,drink lightly,see others get sick and never become queasy.

[Kerry]

for sea sick people there are wrist bands that push on a point on the wrist. My wife and a friend uses them and they say it works. There also is ginger,ginger snaps,a ginger candy,a ginger drink called smooth sailing,but we have not tried the drink smooth sailing