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Snagly
04-26-2001, 05:21 PM
"The 20 minute rule" thread is spot on. I've waited a half hour for a client to show up at my house at 5:30 a.m. (Never invited him out again). I've sat in a car outside someone's house/ apartment building for 20 minutes AFTER they said they'd be out in three. I've made major detours to pick people up at their houses (after waiting 20 minutes in the kitchen) because they couldn't read a road map well enough to find "Exit 3" on the highway and meet me on the way. I don't invite these guys again.

But this thread is about the things your fishing buds do on the water that drive you nuts. I have a great fishing partner in Slick. He's an ace on the sticks, generally lets me pick which end of the run I want to start with and is lots of fun to shoot the breeze with (over and beyond being an ace angler). But he does two things that drive me crazy:

1. We agree that the hole is dead and we're leaving. "Last cast" to Slick means the other person (me) has reeled up, secured hook to hook keeper, put rod and self in boat, pulled anchor/ untied bow rope, and is now screaming "Are you coming or not?" THEN he makes a last cast before sauntering over.

Solution: I no longer stop fishing until Slick has reeled up HIS line. Yes, we pound dead holes an extra 10 minutes (every time), but at least I'm fishing and not fuming.

2. Slick suffers from TB ("tiny bladder"), so a pee every 90 minutes is about par for the course. He only pees when a hole is dead, never when there is any decent fishing to be done. If I have to take a leak, I do it where you might reasonably expect to bang a fish, early in the stay. (I'm also known as "Iron Bladder" as it's one leak a day, two tops.)

Solution: We were with a guide one day in Alaska a couple of weeks ago. The run was dead and we were ready to go. Slick says, "I got to pee." I replied, "You gotta be kidding me -- let's get to the next spot before you drain your dragon!" Nope. So I'm fishing a dead spot (again). Then Slick says, "OK, let's go." I said, "No, I'M going to pee now" and took my own sweet time over it, too (as much as it galls me to waste fishing time). Rest of the trip, Slick was more considerate about when and where he decided to take his comfort stops.

Anyway, I'm not looking for "the worst thing that some knucklehead ever did while fishing with me" (though that would be a great thread), just the sort of stuff that long-time fishing buddies do that get on each other's nerves, sort of a husband-wife thing.

PS No, I don't do ANYTHING that annoys my fishing partner! I'm the perfect fishing partner. Absolutely.

Jennie@ifish
04-26-2001, 05:42 PM
This is a great thread! I have some things to post here, after I get some rest.
Jen

ol tuna skipper
04-26-2001, 06:09 PM
Here, Here, I have a wife of a bud. I started fishing with him this year because he's fixing up his dad's boat to start fishing. Its been sitting for ten years. I try to break him in to launching and loading a boat.

1. I back down the ramp and am looking for him to grab the bow line. Guys are lined up in front of me and he's off peeing. It's kind of hard to launch alone so I started powering the boat off the trailer and left the truck and trailer for him to park. Ya know let him git hollered at for take all morning getting out of everyones way.I pick him up at the dock after he's done dicking around.

2. I get to the dock to take out, and tell him to hold the boat, while I get the truck. I back down down the ramp and he's gone. boat tied off in the front only and the ass end is sideways at the ramp. He's off peeing again. Now I stay with the boat and he can back the dang trailer down the ramp.

This guy is slow or won't learn. Anyway I hope I'm not at the ramp the day he launches.

I pride myself on gettin in and out fast safe and efficient. It never happens when he's along.

DF
04-26-2001, 09:36 PM
I have never had a really bad fishing partner. The problem is that I suffer from TB " tiny bladder " LOL and If im drikin coffe or a pepsi.. I gotta go ALL THE TIME. Probly gets on my friends nevers. images/icons/smile.gif And I always have my HAM radio with me and somtimes I yack on that. HEY TYLER!! images/icons/shocked.gif dose it get on your nevers? images/icons/tongue.gif

Jennie@ifish
04-27-2001, 08:41 AM
I do alot of guilt over the 'nature calls' thingy. Oh well, that's life!
Bill's list of bad fishing buddy tricks:

<UL TYPE=SQUARE><LI>People that forget their scissors and pliers and are always needing to use your tools.
<LI>People cluttering the deck of the boat with things that people could trip over.
<LI>People leaving things loose in the boat that can blow out or tip over when you move to another spot.
<LI>People leaving hard to clean up messes like chocolate. That is the worst offender! Bill was cleaning out the boat last night after I ate an Almond joy. Little flecks got ground into the floor boards. UH OH! Sorry Bill!
<LI>People that over indulge in alcohol while you are still fishing.
[/list]That's about it for now!
Jen

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Jeffhead
04-27-2001, 09:33 AM
I must be lucky, my fishin' Bud's are on time, throw in for gas and bait, run the boat, and we always have a good time. I guess I'd just not invite someone back if they didn't!!!
Good luck and tight lines, Jeff images/icons/grin.gif images/icons/grin.gif

Bait O' Eggs
04-27-2001, 09:43 AM
I have some lame buddies that USE to fish with me. If their lips were only as tight on where we fished as there wallets are. images/icons/rolleyes.gif

My number one complaint is alchohol in the boat. I enjoy having a beer or mixed drink around the house when the kids are in bed and I am done for the day.

I dont mind people having a beer in the boat, but most (not all) that pull out a beer have plenty more where the first one came from. I recently told a good friend to leave his beer at home and if he couldnt make it without his beer he needed to stay at home with his beer. images/icons/shocked.gif Not an easy thing to do, but ya gotta do what you are comfortable with. Lets have a beer when we get home, lets catch fish when we are in the boat.

DK
04-27-2001, 10:01 AM
i guess i must be lucky also, all we need is a tent to erect over the boat for hours of pure intertainment, so far all trips have gone well

NEUTRON
04-27-2001, 05:51 PM
Well just today, I experienced a situation I find annoying. Took my friend and his wifes boss whom I had never met on a float of about
12 miles or so (long). I was on the sticks from 05:15 to 2:30, did use the electric once
or twice. Majority of the time was spent boon doggling with me holding back the boat,
I enjoy paddling and being on the river. The last run before the takeout bossman hits
a nice nooker while doggin. Earlier he said he had plenty of fish (bragging?). Find out he been using 30# test for leader all day, no
wonder the summer steelie action was slow.
Anyway, when we were done, my friend kicks in a $20 spot. Bossman a big zip nor even an offer of springer morsel. I guess that's how he came to own his own biz, by squeaking
while walking. I shouldn't have done such a good net job and whacked that fish.

Snagly
04-27-2001, 05:54 PM
Clearly my buddy Slick is a lower life form compared to everyone else's fishing companions. Somehow I find that hard to believe. Isn't there any competition or gamesmanship (e.g. selling a lure in the hot color for an outrageous amount of money, or lying about whatever it use you're using that is working on a particular day?)

Here's another one of Slick's favorite tricks when we fish. Say there's a long run to be fished, we're out of the boat and wading to the head. Unless I've just banged a big one, Slick often says, "Go ahead and start, I'll follow you down." (Until I hook-up: then back of the bus.) The drill is step and cast, quickly.

Every run has a sweet spot, and every time I get to it there's Slick right on my shoulder crowding me down. I remember his classic comment, "Hey, you got a great drift just there -- I guess there's no one home. Come on, let's keep moving." I certainly wanted to give the honey hole more than one cast, but, yeah, there's a lot of water to cover so down in the run I go. Five minutes later, I'm now 100' below Slick who's changed lures a couple of times and still pounding the sweet spot. "Hey Slick, I thought ONE CAST was all that was worth?" No answer. If he'd have hooked up, steam would have come out of my ears.

I confess that I DO have a few traits that drive Slick nuts. I'm a fish counter. I count hook-ups and leadered fish for me (and often for him, too). He doesn't want to know -- says it's not about how many you hook or catch. I agree, but I still count. On the other hand, Slick talks about and to animals -- steelhead and hunting dogs in particular -- as if they were people, or children. So there he is with a little hen on the line saying stuff like, "OK darling, calm down. I'm going to let you go. Come on sweetheart, let me unhook you" and all that other sugary talk that maybe Lani Waller can get away with but no one else. So when he starts off on one of those rants, I get back at him by saying, "Did you realize that I'm 5 for 7 today and you're 6 for 10? Oh, you've lost your fish. That's 6-for-11 now." (I can hear his teeth grind.)

Good thing we catch a lot of fish. Otherwise I think we might end up killing one another out there.

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As for beer in the boat, I've got a simple rule in the salt: drinking and fishing are two great sports, but you only pursue one at a time with me. People that bring beer with them are told to leave it in the car.

Deleted User
04-28-2001, 07:47 PM
I used to fish with a guy that ALWAYS forgot something. Sometimes something small and insignificant or sometimes big but it ws always something. He never brought his own bait or coffee and more than once he forgot his rod and reel. I always over prepare and bring extras and so guess whose rod and reel he used. I finally got fed up with it and quit fishing with him.
Stew