Tangle-tooth article in Oregonian

[Killertraylor]

Many of you may be interested in the article in the Metro section of the Oregonian today on the experimental tangle-tooth gillnet season. No fatalities to wild salmon were reported by the biologist aboard Brian Tarabockia's gillnet boat. 40 fish were cought, 19 hatchery fish, 14 wild salmon and 7 steelhead. All wild fish were revived and released unharmed according to the Oregonian. The best part of the article was the quote from Charles Hudson - spokesman for the Columbia River Inter-Tribal Fish Commission. He said, "We don't advocate for any catch and release. The salmon comes back to either give itself up or to spawn. To judge a fish by the mutilation of a clipped fin is not in keeping with the tribal view of the completion of a life cycle. It's at the heart of the spiratual question."

Yeah right - it's at the heart of the "How much money can I get for these fish from the back of my truck before most of them rot?" question. Tribal spirits are focused on financial interests, not the completion of a life cycle.

Commercial non-tribal gillnetters will not be allowed to keep wild salmon starting next year, but the Tribal gillnetters will continue to kill and waste wild salmon.

[Pete]

Indeed, that is the question, Killer. What ever happened to the "Don't do anything unless you have considered the impact it will have seven generations from now" philosophy?

There was a news report on KATU last Tuesday showing city-folks in beater cars buying salmon at $3 / pound. The fish were disgusting; dark and crinkly like an old chum that had been on the bank in the sun for a couple days. I could almost smell them through the TV.

[Nanook]

Again, Native Salmon Vendors! If I buy that "Wild" Salmon at your price will you give me that "Wild" Steelhead, for free that I released downstream UNHARMED? By the way, who said all you "vendors" could just take over the park at Bonneville on highway 14? Is this not a public place?

http://www.animfactory.com/animations/animals/cows_bulls/bullseye_target_blink_md_wht.gif SHEYAT!

[boater]

if this is true and the state makes the tangle nets mandatory, the non-tribal netters are going to get more of the fish that we are fishing for, this is b-s........

[superfly]

Man Is that Indian full of Sheeatt!!!! or what, what a **** poor excuse for killing wild fish. That is such a line of Bull sheeatt!! that I hope the people in all the right places will take note and start to make some changes. Man I would like to smack that %*%*er up side the head with a frozen wild fish!!! Him and his soverign 13 % of the run can kiss my white @ss!!!!!
I have had it with these abusive
Mother#*%@%*s, when is it going to change, why don't they just join society like the rest o

[Killertraylor]

That's not necessarily true, boater. Remember, the commercial gillnetters got the fewest fish of anyone this year - only 6000 of the total run. That's 1%! Of course, if they increase the commercial allotment because of the tangle-tooth nets then it might be possible that they get more fish than they harvested this year, but I doubt it. The guy in the Oregonian today fished one of the prime stretches of the Columbia - right where I cought 10 springers this year on hook and line and he put out his net 10 times and only got 40 fish - only 19 hatchery fish. That's not too many fish - the tangle tooth nets are here to stay and they won't catch the # of fish that the gillnets catch. I'd look at the tangle nets as a big positive for sportfishermen, not a negative. This is definitely a huge step in the right direction for those of you that are so adamently opposed to gillnetting.

[Hookset]

Another upsetting item in that article was the comments about the seals. Sounds like the seals are well honed in on the gill nets and tangle nets, just like the dinner bell has sounded. If the fish gets tangled in the nets, what stops a seal from just picking it off for a snack? And, if fish are released to early before complete recovery, the fish won't escape a pack of seals just waiting for easy pickings. Didn't the artcile comment on the seals barking like a pack of hungry dogs and several fish didn't make it?

The other point was the gill netters thought this would lead to longer seasons. I've read somewhere it's against the law to interrupt or harrass commercial fisherman at work. I still say nets and sports fisherpeople don't mix well. Time to rest an old tired outdated commercial method for landing fish.

hook

[boater]

killertrayler, read this article, thanks. http://www.nwefish.com/psga/psga_office/new_director/experiments_nets_032101.html

[Killertraylor]

Thanks, boater. Good article.

[Mr. Fisherman]

"the tribal view of the completion of a life cycle"

In my humble opinion "complete" means just they; finito, finished, over. If they were selecting fish that had "completed" their life cycle nobody would be complaining. Then again nobody would be buying the Dunlop critters either.

I believe that the intent of the treaty was to provide financial compensation and allow for the tribes to net fish to physically sustain (i.e. feed themselves, not sell fish) their tribal population.

I'm not claiming to be an expert and maybe somebody needs to clue me in but this activity leaves a bad tast in my mouth and I don't care for it.

What happened to selling tribal crafts for money and selling tickets to tribal celebrations and cookouts? The selling of native fish by Native Americans on the side of the road or in a parking lot is just demeaning to their culture and degrading to wild fish populations. There has to be a better way for the tribes to make money for it's people (i.e. casino, land use fees etc...) and to save the depleting native fish population for ALL of us...

O.K., next up to the soap box........

[ 04-27-2001: Message edited by: Mr. Fisherman ]