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steel_beaver
04-16-2007, 08:21 PM
Everyone seems to be swinging with their double handers... does anyone nymph? I'll be trying it anyway (since I nymph 90% of the time) but I thought I'd get a few pointers from the wiser, more experienced people. What are the major differences to watch outh for?
Thanks
S_B
Slow and Low
04-17-2007, 03:37 AM
Assume you are asking about nymphing on a spey rod. It's become popular in the last couple years. I have done it and caught fish. One rather prominent ifish'r does it quite a bit.
Problem is the length of the rod makes for a slow weak hook set. I lave missed a few fish and as a result not been happy with it.
Solution is to get a switch type rod. All the rod manufacturers are in this game now. The origin of the rods comes from Bob Meiser. I have the 117 coming in may. It's an 11'7" spey rod that you can actually cast one handed or two. Winston and sage both have rods of this calliber in 11' models 7 weight and up. When looking at these rods the line weight designation is even more misleading than regular spey rods. More important is the grain window.
Not sure if this answered your question.
C-lice
04-17-2007, 06:26 AM
I nymph quite a bit for summer steelhead. I just bought a Spey rod. I'll be trying it. I'll let you know how I do. On its face I don't see why it wouldn't work, but I have next to zero Spey rod experience.
Slow and Low
04-17-2007, 07:36 AM
you will be able to boot it out quite a ways that's for sure.
drbfish
04-17-2007, 07:20 PM
:shrug:
SSPey
04-17-2007, 08:08 PM
what drb really means to say is that it don't mean a thing unless it is attached to a yellow banana :yay:
. . . ... :laugh:
buhrly
04-17-2007, 08:11 PM
manages the line well just doesnt seem right:)
Two Fister
04-17-2007, 09:57 PM
I tried to nymph once with my spey but found it to be kind of heavy and unresponsive. I'd definitely rather swing a fly with a spey and nymph with a single hand rod.
TF
Speycatoring can be deadly. There are some waters I fish that would be hard to fish effectively single handed. The same water is almost impossible to swing effectively. In this situation the spey rod will give you more distance and line control with less effort.
I don't recommend using a skagit for speycatoring. Learn to lift your fly at the end of your drift and cast the whole system. Throw an imeadiate mend upstream and let it ride. In this case you will be fishing a long line so there will be some very agressive line management going on.
As far as the switch rods vs spey rods is concerned, you just need to work on your technique and both will be effective. I speycator with a 13' 8wt and am very happy with that set up. The switch rods I have fished did not have the guts to throw the heavy rigs I fish with. So, for now, I will stick with a spey rod for my speycatoring.
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2/0Dee
04-25-2007, 07:25 AM
There are switch rods that had the guts to cast anything you can dish out. The mainstream rod manuf. just don't make any. In my opinion switch rods make a much better nymphing tools than spey rods because they are shorter and easier to control with while nymphing. However they don't swing as well as a spey rod. I typically use a switch rod when fishing from a boat or in small rivers and use a spey rod when banking fishing the medium to large PNW rivers.
Mike
steel_beaver
04-25-2007, 10:30 PM
Well I was planning on trying it out last weekend, but I made a big mistake going north to Eugene... made an even bigger mistake leaving my reel in the car and now I'm waiting for a new reel to come in the mail...:berry: Don't leave anything in your car, even in front of your house... even at 4:30 pm. The ******** know what to look for and they are not afraid to bust your car open in the middle of the day.
S_B
Slow and Low
04-26-2007, 06:06 AM
There are switch rods that had the guts to cast anything you can dish out. The mainstream rod manuf. just don't make any. In my opinion switch rods make a much better nymphing tools than spey rods because they are shorter and easier to control with while nymphing. However they don't swing as well as a spey rod. I typically use a switch rod when fishing from a boat or in small rivers and use a spey rod when banking fishing the medium to large PNW rivers.
Mike
Spey rods are too heavy and long for a crisp hook set. I have the perfect weapon on the way from mr. meiser.
Slow and Low, are you strip setting? I'm, just curious, because until I started that method with my 2 hander, I was wiffing every hookset.
Slow and Low
04-26-2007, 08:37 PM
Mojo,
Sorry to say I have no idea. I am assuming you are holding a shock loop and as you set the hook you give it a rip?
Is that what you mean?
Slow and Low, are you strip setting? I'm, just curious, because until I started that method with my 2 hander, I was wiffing every hookset.