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Fish Cop
01-20-2001, 07:20 PM
I just wanted to introduce myself. I am the fishcop who watches you all with my binoculars day and night. You probably have never seen me but I have been watching you. Lets hope when we meet on the water I am fishing and not working, or it might be bad for you. http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif
On a serious note; I just wanted to join the board as an off duty Gamie and fellow fisherman. I have been reading the post for quite sometime. It is nice to see so much interest in sustaining Oregon's resources. I hope you all keep up the good work. http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Fish Cop
Deleted User
01-20-2001, 07:28 PM
Fish cop in what jurisdiction and location...Questions to follow!
Welcome to the board!
BWB
Fish Cop
01-20-2001, 08:04 PM
To answer your question my jurisdiction is the state of Oregon. Area is the entire state. I work on special investigations where ever they may be, mostly on people who are unlawfully commercializing in Oregons resources. (investigations are long term in nature).
Deleted User
01-20-2001, 08:16 PM
Welcome to the Ifish BB Fish Cop. I am glad to have your insight to share with us. To that end, I have a some questions for you. Please excuse if they sound a bit indicting; but there has been a lot of frustration among lots of sportfishermen about the lowlife snagfishermen, and the lack of enforcement. Some of this is because of the lack of enforcement funds. But when you guys are handed snagging activities by phoned in reports and here on this BB, repleat with specific places of lawbreaking, why aren't your guys right on top of it? ...
If you have been reading here you undoubtedly have seen the plaintive posts about blatant snagging of fish, in such places as Eaqle Creek for the Clack coho run. Q - what did you do in response to those complaints? If there were any citations given, which would have been a walk in the park for you guys, how many? And are the citation numbers a matter of public record? What will be done next fall when even more numbers of fish, and likely snaggers, will be coming? Concerned fishers what to know! ....
In many of the snagging "hot spots" such as below the Barrier Dam on the Cowlitz, the WDFW cops just looked the other way because of an overabundance of hatchery fish that would otherwise go to waste. Don't these cops know that this sends a clear message that snagging isn't a big deal?!? It sure does! Had to answer for you. Why did those cops/WDFW just sit it out in that scenario? That's just plain pisspoor management of the enforcement dollars that us tax paying and license buying honest anglers are mad about! Feedback? - RT
Deleted User
01-20-2001, 08:55 PM
Boundry river...the Columbia.
If I put in at a ramp in Washington, have license in both states...and fish Sturgeon, Can I catch and release fish after I tag a fish like Oregon allows or do I stop fishing like Washington requires?
Did you read the post about the Columbia County sherrif regarding the threat to give citation for fishing with 2 poles when the fisher was rigging a pole that was not in the water? What is the reel truth here?
In the Columbia...When do I observe the Washington laws as apposed to the the Oregon laws?
Thanks and Glad you are out there....Help us not to get on the wrong side of your FLUR!
We want to do it right!
BWB
Myfish
01-20-2001, 09:13 PM
Hey Fish Cop. Why don't you try the Forkshole on the Siuslaw in September. You would make a killing. It's the same guys day in and day out. While you are doing that, work your way on up to Lakecreek. They don't care who I am, so I am sure they probably won't care who you are either. SAVE OUR FALL CHINOOK!!!
HOGTIDE
01-20-2001, 09:28 PM
Whoa..this poor dude probably thought he was going to engage in some casual off-duty fish chat.
Deleted User
01-20-2001, 09:33 PM
Myfish,
I am with you on protecting the fish on the Slaw. My first fishing trip there was in October of 2000 and what an awsome place. My son recenly moved to Walton. I took him and a friend fishing there and on the Umpqua bay for fall Salmon. Had a great time and my son caught his first and second Salmon on these trips. What a buitiful place you have and I look forward to fishing it many years into the future.
BWB
Fish Cop
01-20-2001, 10:14 PM
RT,
I appreciate your response. Your post seems somewhat confrontational. I would hope you don't hold me personally responsible for your frustrations. I will try to work my way through your post and answer all of you questions to the best of my ability. After all, that is why I joined the BB to become more involved and aware of what is going on. I get enough confrontation at work. In regards to your question when "you guys" are handed snagging activities by phoned in reports and here on the BB, why haven't the police been right on top of it? I'm not sure a complaint was called in. Did you call? If you did, good for you, if you didn't did you just assume somebody else did? I am not personally responsible for Eagle Creek or the Clackamas, so I can't answer for you if a call actually came in. Speaking from experience very few people call in complaints. For example today Artwo posted information in regards to a wild steelhead being unlawfully taken, (it wasn't called in). However I believe a good game officer should be aware of whats going on in his or her area and should know when the fish are in. (There is also the big game seasons going on.) There is approximately 112 Game Officers assigned to patrol the entire state of Oregon. There is one person assigned as support (clerical) for all these officers. The current proposed Governers budget is to cut 22 fish and wildlife positions. I have been reading this BB for about two or three weeks off and on. I would like to read more but I have been busy at work. I did do some research in order to answer your question more completely and found a post on this BB in regards to snaggers caught at Eagle Creek by OSP Game Officers. I also seen that your comments were less than favorable towards enforcement. I assure you, I dont eat donuts or drive a SUV. To answer your questions about what "I" did in response to these complaints, I didn't personally do anything because this was not my area of responsibility, however by reviewing past posts on this BB in regards to Eagle Creek I am aware that snaggers were caught and cited. To answer your questions about how many tickets were issued, are they public information (yes they are), what will be done next year, I can direct you to telephone the OSP Portland Office at 503-731-3027 and ask for Lieutenant Ken Allison. I do know that once a year our game officers meet with the local ODFW biologists and work out a "Cooperative Enforcement Planning" strategy so that our enforcement efforts complement the biologists management objectives. In regards to your questions about Washington, that is not my jurisdiction and I have no knowledge of what happened. However I assure you I am also a taxpayer and a license buying honest angler who wants to see effective management of our resources. I invite you to attend a legislative hearing or a commissin meeting or just get to know your local game officer, I am sure you would have a lot of good input. I know most of the game officers and they all love their job and want to do the right thing. We all have to work together - not just talk about it. I understand your frustrations and hope together we can save the fish.
Fishcop
Myfish
01-20-2001, 10:19 PM
BWB shhhhhhhhhhhh don't tell. I spend allot of time there come mid September, that is down in tidewater, I love it! Fish Cop just want point someone in the right direction.
Fish Cop
01-20-2001, 10:58 PM
BWB
I will research your question about the columbia and the two liner and respond. I would rather respond accurately than sooner. I see this is not going to be as casual as I had hoped. I was asked to participate by a member of this forum and I figured it might become very time consuming. I'm not complaining, I think anytime I can interact with the public it is good and I feel you guys really do care about the resources. I'll have to bring some of my books home. Talk to you soon.
Fish Cop
_LIPPEE
01-20-2001, 11:04 PM
Fish Cop
Do you happen to live in forest grove.?
Fish Cop,
Welcome and I look forward to using the number you have provided and getting some bad guys busted. Let me ask you is there anyway to follow up to determine that an officer was dispatched to a complaint?
Carefully release all wild fish
Fish Cop
01-20-2001, 11:37 PM
Lippee,
I do not live in Forest Grove. I am a little familar with the Forest Grove area. I was involved with an investigation in regards to some fellas in the Forest Grove area that were exceeding by using duplicate tags (hen hunters). Thes guys were catching alot of hens all up and down the coast. Several search warrants were served about a year ago. Because I work on long term investigations and I am not assigned a particular area I don't know any one part of the state very well. I like to look around though.
Fish Cop
Deleted User
01-21-2001, 01:26 AM
Fish Cop.
Please pardon the way I came across in my above post. I apologize for that. Frustrasions over fishing lawbreakers coming thru. When I said 'you', I meant Oregon's game officers in general and I should have made that clearer to avoid any confusion. And after answering a few of these type of questions you got hammered with, I think they will taper off to where you can enjoy being a more 'normal' fishermen joining in with the fishing subjects http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif, only occasionally asked for enforcement clarification. As for the complaints to the OSP fish and game division that weren't responded to, I can't recall the name of the post topic or even which river it was posted about. There have been even more complaints about lack of enforcement by Washington fish and game law police; mostly on the Wash. fishing websites. Anyway, as I said, we understand the budget's affect on your efforts, and that's unfortunate. Just know that most of the people you meet here are in your corner to stop fishing violations against our fragile resourse. And that we appreciate what your dept. does within those constraits. ... Did you read the front of this Saturday's Oregonian sportspage; the article in the left column by Brian Meehan? Very interesting take on the politics that sandwich the ODFW. And why Greer was forced out as director. Check it out if you haven't seen it. ... Again, we are very glad to have you become a valuable member of our Ifish BB. Thanks. - Steve (RT)
_LIPPEE
01-21-2001, 08:04 AM
Fish Cop
The reason I asked, I have a friend who is a gamie also, Just thought you might have been him.
Artwo
01-21-2001, 08:12 AM
Fishcop,
First off,welcome aboard. In regards to my post about the wild WS illegally taken yesterday. Thanks for responding to my post and I will make the call and do what ever I can. I should have done something yesterday and now feel bad that I didn't. After the guy left the store I thought that I should have done more. So, like I said I will make the call.
Thanks,
JK
Barnyard
01-21-2001, 09:37 AM
Fish Cop welcome aboard...We all know you've got an almost imposible job. We are just passionate about our fisheries so if we come across alittle over zelous please forgive...Once again welcome....
Phish_on
01-21-2001, 09:47 AM
Is that "Officer Allison" who used to love to bust teenagers for beer up on the Little N. Santiam? Not that I know anything about that... or rather remember anything
Pilar
01-21-2001, 10:13 AM
Hip, Hip, Hip Hooray! Three cheers for the brave soul who walked into the briar patch!!!
I salute you sir for taking on a non traditional law enforcement role. Personally I prefer my contacts with you and your peers to be more of an information exchange and less of a confrontation.
Most of the guys and gals on this forum will only break the law by doing something like leaving the wallet/licence in the pickup or not completely understanding the rules for a specific area. I think that applies to most serious fishers.
The really cool thing about what you are doing here is that you will relieve all of us of our ignorance regarding you and your kind. Hang in there with all of the tough questions, we really mean you no harm. It's a lot harder to be disrepectful of someone you know.
As far as this board being time consuming, you are not the first to notice that. Just ask RT, he'll tell you. Once you decide to stop lurking and participate it just grabs you. Kind of hard to resist actually. Here is a great, diverse group of people all focused on one thing. Fishing.
If there is any way to encourage you in your quest or help please ask. I think you will be overwhelmed by the giving spirit of the regulars at Ifish.
Good luck to you sir and welcome aboard, remember, The bend is your friend!
BillH
01-21-2001, 11:43 AM
Dear Fish Cop:
Welcome to the board. We will probably plague you with questions from time to time, but please bare with us. We do care!
I have a feeling that many of the complaint type questions you hear arise from the "Cooperative Enforcement Planning Strategy" meetings to which you refer. I suspect that because OSP is so short staffed that ODFW encourages enforcement priorities be directed toward activities where wild fish and game stocks could be impacted as opposed to concentrations of hatchery fish. There are so many easy pinches out there to be made that they are like grapes on a vine. I'm glad that you are not on a quota system else you would be out making "maximum easy pinches" as opposed to prioritized enforcement. It does, however, make a lot of us angry that OSP doesn't have time to make a lot of pinches on the high visibility violations that we observe. If the governor and legislature were to give adequate priority to law enforcement in their budgeting activities, there would be a lot less of this sort of anger. I am afraid that the budget problem in the near future is going to get worse before it gets better so hang in there and keep at it. Thanks for your efforts!
tadpolly
01-21-2001, 01:14 PM
Cop,as was said earlier,sorry for the rough tone.Emotions apparently.Well, if you like to fish then I'd be happy to take you sometime.E-mail me if you are interested.It would be on the Deschutes or John Day.Sorry again for the less than kind tone.Mark
Fish Cop
01-21-2001, 06:22 PM
Hey guys,
Thanks for all of the support. It is greatly appreciated. Tomorrow I will bring home some reference material and start answering the above questions, so bring it on http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif . I could answer most of the questions off of the cuff but I want to be darn sure I'm exactly right - or I think I might hear about it http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/frown.gif ????
Phish_on,
Yes, Lieutenant Allison is the same "Officer Allison" that you so vaguely remember. http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
Whats up with the animal molestation question? Something about an Emu. I have heard of a lot of weird stuff, but molesting an emu is a new one for me.
Is there a witness? Please respond....
Fish Cop
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shureskunk
01-21-2001, 06:35 PM
Did someone say some thing about sheep? I have the right to remain silent...OH, EMUS!...
RT, has the right to remain silent...
wiser
01-21-2001, 07:46 PM
Fish Cop,
Welcome, I'm sure your knowledge, insight and experience will be appreciated here.
Sorry I didn't welcome you aboard on my previous post. That part got lost on my posting misadventure. I hope you don't mind someone else trying to answer one of your questions. I just quoted out of the Oregon synopsis what I thought would answer BWB's question.
Deleted User
01-21-2001, 07:48 PM
Let's not be opening Os' can of feather's again guys http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif . It's a long story FC. If you have a couple hours with nothing better to do, use the search feature to find the origins of the mysterious emu tail ...ah, I mean tale. http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif
http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/blush.gif Edit: Hey ShureSkunk, after reading all of the good pointers on this BB have you caught a fish yet? FC, this SSK guy has fished for steelhead for 20 years and hasn't caught one yet! Is there any fishing law that makes it a crime for the fish to harass a fisherman? If so, I think this guy has a good case. When he comes around they actually jump out of the water and stick their tongue out at him. http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
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jawbreaker
01-21-2001, 08:00 PM
I saw Shureskunk flyfishing the other day....
What kind of fly was that ss. Looked like a
treble hook with a giant crow feather tied on
http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif
shureskunk
01-21-2001, 08:31 PM
Jeeez Jaw Breaker! That was an Eagle feather..uh er I mean a spotted ow... uh...nevermind!
Fish Cop
01-21-2001, 08:40 PM
Hey RT,
I did the search you suggested. I just have one question.
How was it??? http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/confused.gif
Make that two questions.
How did the emu take it? http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/frown.gif
Fish Cop
shureskunk
01-21-2001, 08:52 PM
In RT's defense, the EMU was leadin' him on. A good Emu will do that you know?
SSK
Fishhead
01-21-2001, 11:28 PM
Fishcop, Keep up the good work! It's a tough job but someones got to do it! Welcome and good luck!!......Fishhead Vic
Deleted User
01-21-2001, 11:57 PM
FC, don't spread this around, but once you've had Emu you'll never go back to sheep! .... HEY, I know what some of you dirty minded guys are thinking right now and you should be ashamed of yourselves http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/mad.gif ! I was talking about the different taste between roasted Emu (I'd describe it as tasting about half way between Bald Eagle and Trumpeter Swan) and BBQ'd lamb chops. Both good though http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif . ....
One long feather and a treble hook ShureSkunk? You are coming right along for such a challenged ... ah, ... hmmm ... jerk. Whoa now ... that's a compliment; you remember the movie "The Jerk" with Steve Martin and how successful he became?!? So, now you are using a hook at least. That's a good starting place (can't believe nobody told about that in 20 years of fishing http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif , not your fault though). Now, get rid of the big feather and treble, and try a good jig under a float and let us know how you do. We are rooting for you SSK! - RT
wiser
01-22-2001, 12:21 AM
Sorry, lost this post. reposted below.
[This message has been edited by Young Salt (edited 01-21-2001).]
wiser
01-22-2001, 12:33 AM
BWB,
There may be changes in new regs but I don't think so. Regardless, until Feb 1 the 2000 rules are valid. Page 81 states
a. license and tags of either state are valid except when the other state'sseason is closed.
b.Anglers must follow the rules of the state in which they are fishing.(Oregon and Washington state waters are defined by the state line which lies within the waters of the Columbia River.In the area from the mouth upstream to Altoona, WA river mile 24, the state line is near the Washington shore. In the area from Altoona, WA upstream to McNary Dam(except near the mainstream dams) the state line is in the middle of the ship channel.
c. Anglers are restrictedto one daily catch and one annual sturgeon catch limit from the Columbia River, even if licensed in Oregon and Washington;and
d. Anglers that are residents of either Oregon or Washington may launch or take out their boats from either shore, regardless of which state license they hold.
e. Anglers that are not a resident of either Oregon or washington must possess a nonresident license for the state in which they are landing.
Hope this helps.
Fish Cop
If we did not care about our resource we would not ask the questions.
My Dad used to be a Gamie and he has said that it is a tougher job than when he was a State Patrolman, Most times the bad guys have guns when you are looking for game violations and know how to use them.
Thanks for joining.
Jet~~~
local_hooker
01-22-2001, 12:46 AM
I worked patrol in 94-95' several times I was asked "why did you stop me, there were six other cars speeding too"? My reply: " ever been fish'n"? there answer: " yes " My reply: " ever catch ALL the fish"?
Give the man a brake, he is one man.
Mr. Fisherman
01-22-2001, 12:53 AM
Fish Cop,
Since you deal with game offenses, what about Emu molestation? http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
Is there leiniency regarding first offenses for friendly, comfortable retired fishing guide sorts of fellas?
RT, take note.... http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Mr. F.
O.K. so much for the lighter side.
Welcome.
I am interested in your opinions and guidence. It is interesting that you stated that often times nobody calls. Makes me want to reconsider taking along my cell phone along. I usually consider it just another water soluable chain.
I hope you will hang in there. With this group of people you are sure to make a difference. Thanks for being so brave and joining rather than just lurking.
http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/cool.gif
Osprey
01-22-2001, 08:37 AM
That poor little Emu everytime you think it's quietly hidden away in you're closet,she raises her head and you're secrets out ...again
somethings just won't go away http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif
Welcome aboard Fish-Cop...Bookem DanO
fishbait
01-22-2001, 09:13 AM
Hey FishCop,
Weclome. Thank you taking the time to research some of our questions. I and I'm sure many others on this board would be willing to put you in our boat for a fishing trip as a way to say thank you for spending your personal time helping us out, when you could be planning your next trip. Also, I'm sure that you will have your share of stories to add to the BS as we wait for that next bite. How bout it fellas !! This board is based on give and take. Also, wouldnt it be cool to have fishcop in your boat next time some ass*** tells you to F** Off when you say something about that almost perfect adapose fin on that steelhead he just bonked.
Jeffhead
01-22-2001, 09:38 AM
Well,
It's nice to see some of the "other side" come out of the wood work and share some of the inside scoop with us regular folks. Welcome to the board FC. We are really all in this together and as you have already seen by some of the posts there are some pretty passionate people here!!! Don't let the emu thing frighten' ya, RT is really a pretty straight guy, http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif yes Os dirty laundry does seem to just keep reappearing out of nowhere!!! Just keep wonderin' what we will encouter on the Satsop party float, I keep hearin' this deliverence music in the back ground, RT, Ya'll, emu's, hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
shureskunk
01-22-2001, 09:54 AM
Thanks for the jerk compliment RT and back at ya ! http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif So I tried the trolling for sturgeon techs you suggested and fished all day Saturday and still no sturgeon! I ran across Backwater Bilge out there, no, I mean, I really ran across him and picked up all his lines as I trolled by and after he calmed down, he was nice enough to suggest some additional tips to compliment and fine tune what you have already taught me. He suggested that I reduce lead size down to 2oz and increase trolling speed. And instead of the zig zag pattern you recommended, try trolling in a straight line directly head-on towards the ship traffic and swerving away at the last few seconds, but only if they don’t yield right-of-way. This tech is so secret we had it all to ourselves and everyone agreed it was action packed and kept us on the edge of our seats, but still no fish! Anyway, thanks for all your advice guys and hope to see some more of you out there sometime. BTW, Hey backwater, from a distance you can't even see that new dent in your boat. And thanks for the info about albacore in Blue Lake yesterday! Think I'll give it a try tommorow, any suggestions for this?
SSK
shureskunk
01-22-2001, 10:06 AM
Oh yeah, FC, You can go with me anytime! I have a low-sided, narrow (but 22ft long)
car- topper, seats eight anglers, (single file).
SSK
Fish Cop
01-22-2001, 04:12 PM
Here is the Reel Truth:
Backwaterbill,
Q: Your question was; if you put in at a ramp in Washington, have a license in both states..and fish sturgeon, Can you catch and release fish after you tag a fish like Oregon allows or do you stop fishing like Washington?
Youngsalt answered your question very well in an above post by reciting the 2000 Sport Fishing Regulations on page 81. (thankyou youngsalt). To add to that; the key point on page 81 is stated under 1b where it says "Anglers must follow the rules of the state in which they are fishing;" (in short if you tag your fish on your Oregon tag you are fishing under Oregon rules and may keep fishing, if you tag your fish on your Washington tag you must stop.
Q: Your next question was did I read the post about the Columbia County Sheriff regarding the threat to give a citation for fishing with 2 poles when the angler was rigging a pole which was not in the water?
I searched around and found that post.
A: The answer is no you can not be cited for this. The reason is: On page 8 of the 2000 Fishing Regulations is the definition for angling (also defined under Oregon Revised Statute 496.004) which is; To take or attempt to take fish for personal use by hook and line. (In short if you are not taking, or in this case, attempting to take a fish with the second pole you are not angling with the second pole) Does that make sense?
Q: Your third question was while in the Columbia when do you observe the Washington laws as opposed to the Oregon laws?
A: If you are fishing under your Oregon fishing license you follow the Oregon rules. If you are fishing under your Washington license you follow the Washington rules. As youngsalt pointed out in his above post the 2000 angling rules gives a definition of the Oregon and Washington waters but this would not apply to your question.
I hope this helps
Fish Cop
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Bait O' Eggs
01-22-2001, 04:56 PM
Welcome Fish cop. You are going to have your work cut out for you with this bunch. Keep your eye out for a southern boy going by the name of hey_yall. I am not sure what the limit is on opposum but I think he exceeded the limit for a little family BBQ he had a while back. http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
On a serious note:
I just read your answer to BWB. This fall during the bouy 10 salmon fishery I launched.... Um.. I mean a buddy of mine launched from the Washington side with only an Oregon license. I was told I .. um.. he I meant he, was not legal because he did not have a license from the state he launched. Can you tell me if this correct. Was my buddy illegal for launching from Washington with only an Oregon License to fish salmon in the Columbia?
Would this not also apply to the sturgeon fishery in the way that if you launched from Washington you would automatically be using the Washington license?
Deleted User
01-22-2001, 05:04 PM
Fish Cop,
Thank you for the the help. If understand it correctly, The state line boundry and or what state you launch in don't come into play. Just the License and tag you decide to fish and tag with.
BWB
wiser
01-22-2001, 05:10 PM
BWB,
I haven't fished for sturgeon for over a year but I didn't know Washington had a different rule with regards to catch and release after retaining daily limit. I have a place in Long Beach Wa. and whenever I go down I thought the guys fishing the banks around the bridge were still fishing even though they had fish on a rope. Did the rules change recently for WA? I don't have a WA regulation book. I would have bet you could keep fishing if I hadn't seen your question. Now you've got me wondering.
Fish Cop
01-22-2001, 05:11 PM
Bait O Eggs,
I had to use a life line on this one and phone a friend.
The answer is: You can launch from either side of the river with a Oregon license and be legal. You may not fish the sloughs, eddies, estuaries, or the bank of the Washington side without a Washington license.
Fish Cop
Fish Cop
01-22-2001, 05:23 PM
Young Salt,
I have to admit that I just assumed that Backwaterbill knew what he was talking about when he asked the question and stated that under Washington law you have to stop, or at least that is how I interpreted his statement. I dont know what Washington law is.
I do know that the Oregon Regulation Book on page 81 under 1c says: Anglers are restricted to one daily catch and one annual sturgeon catch limit from the Columbia River, even if licensed in Oregon and Washington. I would assume that the only reason a Oregon resident would want to purchase a Washington sturgeon tag would be to fish rivers other than the Columbia.
Fish Cop
Fish Cop
01-22-2001, 05:37 PM
C&R
You asked me a question in regards to; is there any way to follow up to determine that an officer was dispatched to a complaint?
A: I listed a name and telephone number in a above post to telephone in regards to the particular instance of the wild steelhead brought into the fishermans Marina. That was my advice only in this situation because I wanted to telephone ahead and give a heads up to the Portland Office.
In the future anybody wanting to telephone in a complaint especially if it is a violation in progrees you should telephone the TURN IN A POACHER (TIP) line. The telephone number is listed in bold on your salmon steelhead tag. The number is 1-800-452-7888. You should leave some basic information like a description of the suspect and suspect vehicle, license plate number and location. A call back number for yourself is really good because the officer receiving the call may need additional information. If you want to follow up if a officer was dispatched leave a call back number and request a call back.
Just remember we do not have a game officer on duty at all times or maybe the officer may be tied up on another call. (we will do our best).
Hope this helps.
Fish Cop
Doubletake
01-22-2001, 06:17 PM
Fishcop, welcome. I don't get down your way much as I am from the Seattle area but you are hooking up with some great people on this board. Your help and input is greatly appreciated.
Take care and good fishing.
Doubletake
jawbreaker
01-22-2001, 07:32 PM
Hey shureskunk, you want to troll for those
albacore in Blue Lake just like you do when your trolliing for sturgeon.....fast! They like to hang out by the kids swimming area next to the bank. Don't worry about those speed limit signs. http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
jb
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FishinMission
01-23-2001, 12:17 AM
Welcome Fishcop!! I just want to say I agree with you regarding the phone-in of violations. I am a "native" Oregonian who at one time lived in Vancouver, Wash. I observed some younger folks "breaking the law" at the mouth of the Sandy in July or August...like 4 rods fishing for two people. Since I lived in Washington, I called the Washington "gamies" and got less than a satisafactory response. I then phoned the OSP game enforcement people. They busted the two violators, and even gave me follow up information. They were on those two like "stink on you know what"!! To this day, I'm still impressed, and have the utmost respect for you guys. As for the folks who got busted that live in the Forest Grove area, they're now ****** Southwest Washington. You might wanna put the word out, if you know the Washington enforcement folks. As for the rest of us....if you see violations....make the call!! The OSP will most likely respond!!!
Clamman
01-23-2001, 06:50 AM
Note,
The Columbia River has concurrent sturgeon regulations. One fish a day between 42" and 60", ten per year and you can fish C&R after tagging a keeper.
ISG