View Full Version : Hey,Osprey......
Nuttinbutnet
01-18-2001, 01:01 PM
There was once a Sovereign Nation with Binding Treaties and Trade with The United States, Britain, Russia, China, France,and many South Pacific Nations. In 1893, American businessmen, with the use of U.S Marines, illegally overthrew this government. Its Native population was pushed to third class status. Shortly, this nation was annexed to the U.S by an act of Congress. This act was illegal even back then by U.S. Law. When the vote came many years later on Statehood, the native population had become a minority in their own land and the ballot never asked the question of going back to the way it was. Since that time, the Native has struggled. He had replaced the American Indian in the census for the highest rates of unemployment, school dropout, alcholism, teen pregnancy, so on and so on. From then to now, he still lives as a Ward of the government with very little if any assistance. He has not even been recognized as an Indidginous(sp) people. We work now for that recognition. We work now to get back that which was taken illegally under U.S Law. And we do not catch any of your fish. So when you post "Just say no to Sovereign Nations" for all here to see, remember that there are Natve People uot here that are working hard to set things awright and don't want your fish. THEY DON'T SWIM ANYWHERE NEAR HAWAII!!!!
Timber Man
01-18-2001, 01:42 PM
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THE REEL HEY_YALL
01-18-2001, 02:01 PM
One time I got beat up by 6 guys at one time. I was able to break the nose on of those guys. Maybe I was in the wrong place at the right time or vice versa. Maybe I shouldn't have been there, maybe they should have provoked it. Like a famous person says if ya smell what I'm cookin' here.."IT DOESN'T MATTER........" I would feel terrible if my great-great-grandkids 107 years from now want compensation for my beating or if they wanted to beat up those assailants grandkids. People have this hard time about letting go and just moving on. Look, life sucks. I'm sorry, but I had to let that cat out of the bag. What is done is done people so get over it. Life is like a poker game, you play with the cards you are dealt. Sometimes you lose. Sometimes you win. Sometimes you get that wild card. O's is like me and bazillion other "AMERICANS" who are fed up with people wanting compensation for this or for the U.S. to apologize and recognize wrong-doings that were done by our f*cking ancestors. I'm tired of that. America can't be America if people all want to b!tch and complain about how we brought them over here, how we took blah blah from them, etc. I feel for those people who had it bad..THEN. Nowadays I just feel bad for the people who complain and b!tch about wanting retribution or compensation, when all it does is drain America, but yet these people also love the amenities America offers, but yet want to have their old cake and eat it too. I hate it when people try to punish us for things that happened in the past, beit 40 years or 400 years. Just get over it. Better yourself, then you can better your people.
O's may say, "say no to blah blah". So what, I say circle the wagons boys. Big friggin' deal.
Bait O' Eggs
01-18-2001, 02:16 PM
Hey_yall nailed that one http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif Get over it, The war is over, and you lost, if you dont like it leave. That is the only answer I got for those wanting special rights, and reimbursement for past sins. America owns it now, and that is that, unless you want to go a few more rounds. Maybe we should pay sadam for all his tanks we blew up in the gulf war http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif I think not.
Hey_yall when ya talk do ya drag dem dere words around fer a while b'fore you spat them out, or do you talk like ya rite. Ya rite reel pretty.
I use to work with some boys from Analusa (sp) Alabama. They would roll a word around on their tongue for at least 10 seconds before they could get it out.
Artwo
01-18-2001, 02:37 PM
Hey Nuttinbutnet,
What about the things your sovereign nation is taking away now; like upriver columbia native steelhead/salmon with your netting because it's your religious right. Can you tell where in your religious beliefs it's ok to sell these fish on the open market. When my great grandkids are old enough to fish and there aren't any left in the columbia river system can they look to you for compensation or retrabution. I believe we should all play on the same team under the same rules for the betterment of mankind.
Just my $.40 worth.
JK
PeterMac
01-18-2001, 02:42 PM
Uh, hey, Art, just an FYI here - Hawaii, nuttin is from Hawaii.... Shakka Bra!
Aloha! http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif
fishbait
01-18-2001, 02:50 PM
Dear God,
Please let it rain. You gave Noah 40 days and 40 nights, just give us 3 or 4. Too many good people are spending too much time away from your church of dawn on the river. It's starting to get serious down here. If we don't get to catch some more fish, who knows what sort for pestulance and famon may befall us. AMEN
Osprey
01-18-2001, 03:07 PM
Wow http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gifmy opinion is that,they want to be considered a seperate nation and yet they want all our perks too ,low interest loans,cheap housing ,tax breaks,Government checks,bla bla bla yet they give nothing to hatcheries off their res.Who paid for these res. hatcheries we did !
yet they want to net these rivers too,ARRRGGGG
What have they given to programs on the Satsop and the Wynoochie....etc.not a F*cking thing just nets in the water....and dead Native Steelies laying in the bottom of their boats http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/frown.gif
I'm not being greedy,I just want my children and their children to be able to catch these wonderful fish,
For a buck a pound you too can help eliminate this speices http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/confused.gif
I guess if they pay $200 they could fish with a guide on the res.
Either join the country or get the hell out!!!!
My Family a long time ago decided to not take advantage of our Native rights my grandfather said we are Americans and don't need any handouts http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/shocked.gif just my.02
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Row quietly and fish a Cataraft
Release all Wild Fish!!-----<'))>><
"Just Say No To Sovereign Nations!"
Ban All Nets!!!
Amen fishbait
Do I hear a Halellua?
Nuttinbutnet
01-18-2001, 03:21 PM
Hey PeterMac. Thanx for reading the entire message. Big difference between Native American situation and The Hawaiian situation. My people don't want jack from anybodies descendants, they already got rich off the Hawaiians. Just making a point that Osprey takes offense to Nations whether or not they have anything to do with fish?
THE REEL HEY_YALL
01-18-2001, 04:10 PM
LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO ....errr laughing here at Bait o Eggs. The correct spelling is Andalusia, pronounced like it's spelled. It's exactly 18 miles by the way the crow flies from my family's farm. Hey, they got a Wal-Mart, Sonic, and a Dairy Queen. It's the county capitol. You can take your driver's license test twice a week there. That's the only time the testing administrators come to town. Oh yeah, they have a movie theatre there too that won't play R rated movies http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif The reason I right reeallly purdeee iz becuz I's an educamukated kuntree boi. I grew up in Birmingham, so that explains it too. I even went to wun of dem dere universkools. Momma always said deys wuz da devil. Now don't get me wrong, I can draw that voice back reaaal nice like, or I can talk normally. Just depends on whether or not there are any good looking females around http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif cha ching if you get my drift. http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif So whut becum of dem kuntree boiz u wurqued with?
Bait O' Eggs
01-18-2001, 08:11 PM
18 miles tells me all I need to know about you. I didnt expend the effort to look up the spelling of andalusia, I spelled it like they pronounced it (analusa), I guess the D is silent when the Drawl gets in the way.
This story dont need embelishing because it is just to good the way it is. I fly from Seattle to Okalahoma City to help these county boys seal an electrical vault with chemical grouts. I pull up on the jobsite in a rental car and see 3 good ol boys in bib overalls, no shirt, no shoes, no socks, no hard hats are sitting on the tail gate of a pickup. The must have been waiting for the ice tea to brew, because they are watching the sun shine on the gallon jar with water and tea bags. I took a picture of these boys in all there splendor before I introduce myself. The guy with the most teeth was in charge, I assume because he had about 6 of them. They at least had the traffic control set up to keep a car from driving into the manhole lid they had removed. The company safety officer thought I staged the photo and said nobody could look like this on a construction jobsite. After we get the leaks in the vault sealed, I give the boys there weekly paychecks. I brought them from the corporate office to save mailing them. They immediately load up the equipment and off they go to the strip bar. They cash there checks with the bouncer and ask for dollar bills. In about 2 hours, a weeks pay belonged to a couple girls in the club. They were complaining the next morning they were hungry and wanted to know if I would buy them breakfast so they wouldnt have to hunt up an oppossum http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif I think they were serious.
I met these boys on several more jobsites. They were all related. Told me everybody from andalusia was related in one way or another. I spent a long week in San Juan Puetro Rico with them. It was very hot and they would get in the electrical vaults and take off there bibbed pants and be in only there underwear. I wasnt much comfortable crawling down a manhole with a couple guys in jockey shorts to lend some technical advise. Just to scary for me what they were doing down there.
I left that company after a year and those boys were still working there. They gave me a vision of the south that I wont forget. http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif
THE REEL HEY_YALL
01-19-2001, 08:39 AM
Hilarious. Although I can't quite think of which guys you would be referring to. Hopefully you didn't buy them breakfast that way you could see how they hunt oppossum http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif
So you have this vision of the south. Just be glad they didn't give you taste of it http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/blush.gif
Squeal for me.......
Osprey
01-19-2001, 08:52 AM
No-nuts Um nets said:"Just making a point that Osprey takes offense to Nations whether or not they have anything to do with fish?"
Where did I say this http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/confused.gif
They want to be seperate and still want us to pick up the tab!!!! http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif
We can't change the past,I'm sorry
The history Of Native Americans is this country is sad but the truth is:
The reason it happened was enevitable
the way it happened was inconceivable
Time to move forward...Os
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Row quietly and fish a Cataraft
Release all Wild Fish!!-----<'))>><
"Just Say No To Sovereign Nations!"
Ban All Nets!!!
Nuttinbutnet
01-19-2001, 09:13 AM
The history of the Native American Treaties are a sad story.
The reason it happened was inevitable.
The way it happened was inconceivable.
Time to move forward....Nuttin
Osprey
01-19-2001, 09:32 AM
.....Agreed http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif
time to move on......Os
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Row quietly and fish a Cataraft
Release all Wild Fish!!-----<'))>><
"Just Say No To Sovereign Nations!"
Ban All Nets!!!