Smelly Jelly VS What else???

[Fishhead]

I've tried smelly jelly and bait butter and oils, are there any new products out on the market worth trying?

[alwyze fishin]

I think the grammar and spelling is to the liking of those that care.

As I sit here and take my last bite of BBQ steel head I can only think of one scent to use Marie’s shrimp or sturgeon scent. With fish in the boat the last month and a half it’s the best I have fond.

THANKS MARIE AND TBC

Jeff

[Wog]

Smelly Gelly and Pro-cure bait oils have worked well for me. http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[David Johnson]

You've got it, as far as commercial scents Smelly Jelly and Pro Cure oils are the best there are.

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[SLEDDER]

MARIE'S SHRIMP OIL!! From Tillamook bait co.

[Hairball]

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[Fishhead]

I've used Maries shrimp oil with great success also, Hey Marie has the Preacher got any more of his Jesus juice for sale? I was using yours and his as a combo and the Chinooks would'nt leave it alone. Have'nt tried it for steelhead yet. Thanks Marie and Dennis..Fishead Vic

[Captain and Marie]

The best Scent for Salmon and Steelhead is BY FAR Marie's Scent

6 Fish caught and kept all using Marie's Juice.

Another dozen - released also using the same.

Wil P.

[Deleted User]

In addition to Marie's excellant TBC shrimp oil, and the Smelly Jelly and Pro-Cure products, Mike's scents are proven effective for years also. We have so many new members since I posted those formula suggestions I will post them again. For chinook fishing scents to be applied primarily on lures, but also can be used on bait, I like to use multi sources of scent and chems because the 'nooks often seem to like combos better (same with baits, such as eggs and shrimp). The 2 formulas, made from quality products as mentioned above, are 'Baitfish': 1/2 herring oil, 1/4 sardine oil, and 1/4 squid oil (underated), with about 1/4 t. of sodium sulfite and MSG and a few drops of Dr. Juice Salmon Concentrate added per 2 0z. bottle; shaken real well. And 'Egg & Tail': 1/2 salmon egg juice from the curing process, 1/4 shrimp oil, 1/4 crawfish oil, with the same 3 additives shaken in. Use scent oils sparingly; there can be too much of a good thing. For steelhead I use the same or similar formulas w/o those 3 additives, but with 1 T. of anise oil added. ...

If you like to make your own scents, use Spectrum Flax Oil (found at health food stores) which is very refined and full of omega-3 fats, as your base oil. Examples: in a clean blender put in 8 oz. flax oil and add several very fresh de-clawed sandshrimp and quality fresh egg clusters with 1/2 t. of sodium sulfite and 1 T. anise oil and puree it thoroughtly. Refridgerate what you will use within short duration and freeze it otherwise. Use you imagination; such as smelt and herring filets pureed in flax oil for spring chinook. It works great and is fun when your wife catches you in the kitchen with the stuff in her blender http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif .

Would some of you experimenters mind putting up suggestions of other additives or baits to try for mods or home made scents? I'll put up a few for fishers that have enough river time to get some definitive results: garlic oil, DMSO, vanila extract, nitrates, cod liver oil, tuna oil, raw albacore filet, tabasco sauce, avacado oil, powdered sugar, aloevera, and any good baits in the blender (fresh squid, crawfish, worms, etc., etc.,) ... OK, I was jk about the tabasco to see if you were paying attention http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif.

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Know Scent or No Scent http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/shocked.gif




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[Captain and Marie]

Hey! Have you tried
"Marie's Sturgeon Scent" yet???

I hear the sturgeon on the Tillamook river is the ticket! Best kept secret this past week.

While the guys were trying the bay, others are down on Fraser Road catching BIG ones!

Their eating sand shrimp.

Now take a bait wrap fill it with mud shrimp and scent it with Marie's Sturgeon Scent!

I bet you do real good!

Come on over, I'll set you up!

Thanks,
Marie

[kingofbacklash]

Marie's shrimp oil is at the top of the list for good scent application. We really did well on the fall chinook using it this year.
Another tip for you sturgeon fishermen out there, when you use roll mop, try puting some rock salt in the jar, this will preserve as well as firm up your baits for future fishing.

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[Line_Buster]

RT,

I know a guy tha ttold me he use t omix cod liver oil with anise oil (the real stuff) and said he use to do really well. the only thign is niether of us knows where to find the anise oil. only extract. anybody know wherer a good place is to start?

oh and nice site. been reading it for a few weeks and finally got around to joining.

Line Buster --(dcrzfitter)

walk softly and pack a Big fish.


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[Deleted User]

Hi DC. Glad to see ya join in with us. I think there are some of the above baitoil companies that put out quality anise oil. I know Mike's does; I have used it. ... Hey, you gettin down on the Nasty lately? Should have a mixed bag after it comes back down, like a lot of rivers all over. Yeehaw!

[sgs]

I am embarrassed to admit it sometimes but what really works for me for steelhead is something made by the infamous Powerbait called "salmon jelly." For native fish also!
I put it with my salmon eggs and on plugs. Marie's has worked well for me w/ salmon.

[Greg]

Guys, you probably will think I'm kidding, but has anyone tried WD-40? All this talk of scents makes me think back to catfishing in the lakes and rivers near where I grew up in Kentucky and Tennessee. My fishing partner and I used fillets of threadfin shad, and sprayed them down with plain ol' WD-40. These baits would get twice the action of the same without the "special sauce". Being relatively new to salmon and steelhead fishing, it just occured to me to try it. Heck, with the way my luck has been lately, I'll try just about anything short of dynamite!
Greg

[Deleted User]

WD40? You've got to be kidding!

[Captain and Marie]

Hey tell me something RT,,,??? Is WD 40 toxic to wildlife? (fish)

I heard that it was. Is it?

I heard they banned it a few years ago, then didn't rewrite it back into the regs.


Marie
home of Marie's Natural(non-toxic)Shrimp scent! smile :-)

[Greg]

RT, by the looks of that wink, you know I'm not kidding. If I'm about to use an illegal bait, please let me know. Like I said, I haven't been fishing here for long, and I can't find any mention of restricted substances in Washington's fishing guide.
Greg

[Spooled]

I received some Tillamook Bait Co. shrimp scent as a gift from a friend after I mentioned I heard about it here.
Although I have never caught a fish using it, I am sure it works as well as any scent in the right situation. My only complaint is with the spray bottle it came in. It looks great, but sprays on about every 3rd pump and then shoots a stream of scent that does not always go where you want it to. I have talked to others who say the same thing. I still use it, but put it in a different container.

[scooby]

I have used WD-40 for sturgeon fishing and at times the smelt with the belly full of WD was a better bait. I have not heard of it being banned here in washington nor have I tried it for other species..

I had a commercial fisherman tell me a few years back that if I wanted to catch more sturgeon that I should use some cod liver oil. I never tried it (didn't need any extra help then) but this guy was a friend of my dad's and I don't think he was feeding me any bs.

[Deleted User]

Marie, your shrimp scent oil is very toxic to fish. They suck on it, then get a hook stuck in their mouths, and then get slammed to death by a bonker. Now that's toxic! http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif ... In the relative tiny amounts that WD40 is released into our watersheds by fishermen (yes Greg, salmon and steelhead like it somewhat too), I don't think it would be at toxic levels at all. Same with the oils and preservatives put into scents, that are put into the water in greater amounts. There isn't enough of either to even help the fish with 'regularity' http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif . And certainly not even a discernable fraction of the polution we put into the region's watersheds by so many other means. Some examples directly from fishing: OB motor gas/oil/carbon monoxide, boat-trailer axel grease, fishing soap, lead, lead, and more lead contamination, truck/auto emissions from driving to and from fishing that goes into the lower atmosphere and hits our fish via acid rain, urination/defication in or around the water, and a variety of refuse thrown into or near the edge of our rivers by fishermen, including styrofoam and cardboard sandshrimp and egg containers. Non-fishing examples of poluting our watersheds are so many that there's not enough room to list them here; and most of us contribute to it. One that is of immediate concern to the EPA and Fed. ESA Gov. personel are the chemicals, fertilizers, and wastes that wash directly into our rivers off farm and ranch operations. What will they come up with for rules and alternatives for these necessary functions? I'm a very reasonably conscientious person about the water quality of our rivers and I'm not concerned about using a tiny amount of WD40 or commercial baitoils on baits/lures part of the time. ... What do you think Marie, and other fishers? - RT




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[Deleted User]

Hey, I just read my first post in this thread again and see that I forgot a suggestion of something to try; and let us know how it works out for your steelhead and salmon fishing. ... Go into the hatchery where your target fish were raised and ask nicely if you can have some of the feed pellets that they throw into the holding ponds for fry and smolts. Or ask if you can have the fun of tossing some into the ponds at feeding times and quickly stuff a handful into your pocket (leave a small donation for the sake of conscience). If that doesn't work then go to the Bonneville hatchery, or others, and get some fry/smolt feeding pellets out of the pay machines to feed the pre-smolts in the ponds up there; and hope it is the same or very alike to the ones your target fish grew up eating (likely). I believe that there occurs a significant imprinting by these small hatchery steelhead/salmon at that stage on the feed they grew up on and you should try grinding some into a powder and mix it into Flax oil or petroleum jelly to use as a baitscent. With their lifelong super ability to smell, including using it to find their way back to the rivers they imprinted on that they were planted in, they should recognize the smell of hatchery pellet as food and likely stimulate a feeding/striking response. Try it. You might like it. http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif Let us know. - RT

[THE REEL HEY_YALL]

Hey RT, just to let you know, and don't tell anybody, but I am doing that feed pellet scent... I have had that in the works for over a month now, but you can't tell anyone http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif My brother works at a hatchery.

[fishbait]

In reply to a previous question regarding anise scent, I have been using a combination of anise scent and mineral oil for over 10 years now and my mixture has worked as well as any other brand. I get the anis concentrate at a drug store, last time I bought some it cost me about 3 bucks for a 1 dram bottle. Small bottle, but very potent. Mix it 20:1 with mineral oil. I us McKesson Mineral oil. Mineral oil is oderless, colorless and cheap.

[Shannon]

WD on a Manistee at the black top for Springers. OOOHHHH tighten that drag!

[Myfish]

You need more than a special scent when you've fished with me pal.Thank goodness I had a rod in the water or it would have been a long day.

[Oakie Drifter]

Hi RT, hey, about eight years ago I came up with that idea of getting fish food pellets from the hatchery at Bonneville dam. I tried to incorporate them into scent and bait but didnt have any luck. Maybe someone else will.

[Jennie@ifish]

Don't forget a little Marie's Shrimp oil in the stocking, people!
I was reading old posts and this one struck me! I love waking up to Santa's kind offering of shrimp oil in my stocking!!!
Jen

[Captain and Marie]

Hey I have an idea!

When this thread gets up to 100

someone will win a PRIZE!


The PRIZE will be a 32 oz bottle of:

"Marie's Shrimp Scent"!

But you have to want it!

Really bad!!

Hope this goes somewheres~


Merry Christmas Everyone!

Marie@TBC

:grin: :grin: :grin:

[dampainter]

I use to use WD-40 in the ocean, I caught fish when no one else was. maybe this spring if I use WD I'll finally catch a load for my smoker...poor thing! have yet to feed it some caught spring nookie...sure am glad indians sell cheap :rolleyes: :whazzup: :depressed: :mad: ( me fishin )