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Deleted User
11-14-2000, 12:26 AM
I moved this below sample letter requested of me for those that will unite with us in a much needed letter campaign. I will put in a followup post with a condensed version, since all letters should be in your own words, along with addresses to suggested Congressmen and others to send these to. Thanks. ..... Edit: changed beggining and some of the text (11/21/00). -

November 2000

Dear Senator Ron Wyden:

A large part of why many Oregonians choose to live in the Northwest is the opportunity to enjoy the outdoors fishing for salmon. As the Moderator of the Northwest's most well read fishing website bulletin board, at www.ifish.net (http://www.ifish.net) , I know this to be true. And I know they are more than just upset with salmon allocation issues.

You are also aware of the Federal takeover of N.W. regional fishery decisions from the N.W. States by the Federal Government and turned over to the National Marine Fisheries Service (NMFS). Undoubtedly they have a tough job to do. However, many thousands of regional sportfishers are fed up with the unfair unbalanced sacrifices that have been forced upon us by the NMFS. I know this by reading all of the northwest fishing website discussion boards accessed by thousands of fishermen.

This is most exemplified by the astonishingly unfair fall and spring Chinook salmon allocation mandates on the mainstem Columbia River by the NMFS on behalf of the Columbia Inter-Tribal Fisheries Commission. Under the recommendations of regional fish biologists, NMFS restricted non dam impacts on native (non-hatchery) Chinook salmon last spring, this fall, and again next spring at a 9% impact on ESA protected Chinooks. Of this 9%, 8.5% is given to the Col. Treaty Indians for primary gillnet and ceremonial dipnet seasons, while 0.5% is given to non-Indian commercial gillnetters and sportfishers combined!

N.W. sportsmen have paid more than our fair share for hatchery propegated salmon thru federal and state taxes, tax on sporting goods purchased, and fishing license fees. We have also greatly contributed to the region's economy via purchases of expensive fishing equipment, boats with trailers, trucks to pull these boats, tackle, bait, gas, food, charter and guide's fees, and lodging. Yet we are to accept a paltry 0.5% of the ESA impact compared to the 8.5% ESA impact to the Col. Tribal fishers? No. And we will not.

A reminder; in 1974 Federal Courts reviewed the 1968 Fed. Judge Belloni interpretations of Treaties with the Columbia Region Native Americans. The interpretation upheld that there would be an equal split of fish deemed harvestable between Treaty Indians and non-Indians. Furthermore, it was directed that if one of the two groups got a larger harvest of these runs in a calendar year that the other group would be allowed a larger harvest the following year. In no fathomable way are these allocation decisions by the NMFS, pressured upon by the Col. Tribal Comm., anywhere close to the Treaty rulings, or fairness.

From reliable sources (verifiable), this great discrepancy was born out of idealism sympathetic to the Indian's loss of fish caused primarily by the Columbia and Snake River dams. This was manifested from within the Dept. of the Interior and mandated to the NMFS by Dept. Secretarial order No. 3206, which essentially states that the Treaty Tribes will be the last user group to lose harvest potential due to ESA impact guidelines set forth by the NMFS. This is NOT right! It not only likely illegally overides the Fed. Court Treaty interpretations, but does not ethically take into account that most of today's sportfishers had no more to do with building dams with insufficient fish passage than the Indians; and that the Indians also use electric power from these dams! They have also been compensated in many other ways, including very profitable gambling casinos which ironically use a whole lot of electricity generated by those dams.

This situation is so unfair that the N.W. States have filed a lawsit against the NMFS and Col. Tribal Comm. However, several legal experts have said the States/sportsmen are not likely to get near a fair settlement out of this action due to much stronger representation for the NMFS/Col. Tribes.

We are asking you to investigate this matter and try to reverse the unfair and illegal mandate brought down by Secretarial order No. 3206. And to send a clear message to the NMFS upper management that a fair settlement to this dispute must be reached. By all measure of legallity and fairness sportsmen should get our rightful 50% share of the 9% ESA impact on Columbia R. salmon. Trying to again restrict us to anywhere near an 0.5% ESA impact to share with commercial gillnetters is unacceptable. This is the case regardless of the size of the runs. You should note though that next spring's run is reliably predicted to be well over 300,000 spring chinook. Last spring, with half this many fish, there was a terribly high waste of hatchery fish so that the Indians could have their over-impact on ESA protected native fish. Since we recently found out that these decisions will be made in the weeks to come rather than just before next spring, we respectfully request this receive the attention it deserves expiditiously.

Furthermore, please keep in mind that Indian gillnets (in which they harvest a vast majority of their fish; to sell) are indescriminate killers of the ESA native fish, while sportfishers can fish selectively by releasing unclipped native fish, which ODFW studies prove will allow over a 90% survival rate for those fish to go on and spawn successfully. And we only take hatchery fish that often go to waste in these situations.

Importantly, there is a growing groundswell of major discontent from the hundreds of thousands of N.W. sportsmen, gaining more strength via the power of internet communication, that will be placing their future votes for Congressmen and other politicians who fairly and strongly represent our rights!

Thank you very much for your time and consideration.

Sincerely,

Steve Hanson (moderator of www.ifish.net (http://www.ifish.net) website Discussion Board)




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Steve
11-14-2000, 12:46 AM
Damn, you write a good letter...catching all those fish hasn't scrambled your brains...all those cold days on the water hasn't frozen your fingers...Have a hot battered rum and get on with it...Steve

Clamman
11-14-2000, 09:23 AM
RT

Overall the letter is well written, more or less concise and to the point. A couple suggestions that will make it better perceived by the legislators. First off, refrain from using all capital letters for a word and exclamation points. These can easily be perceived as extreme anger and cause the legislator to ignore your other well intended points even if you are extremely angry. Secondly, I personally wouldn't use the ODFW study on released fish mortality. Scientifically, it has very little merit compared to other larger more elaborate studies done by WDFW and PFMC. Other than that the letter is pretty good. I don't think people should just copy the letter and send it. Use this as a guide, but write your own. If the legislators get duplicates the don't regard them with as much creedance. Hope this helps.


ISG

Pilar
11-14-2000, 10:38 AM
Steve,
Just a little pointer for you. But first let me say its obvious that you are passionate about this cause. Hats off to you my man! Good letter.

The only point I would make is that you summarize your major points in the first few sentences. Most of the targets for your letter campaign have an inflated sense of self importance and are very busy proving it. They won't make the effort to distill your talking points out of that whole text. They will most likely read the first part of it and lose interest.

Make your points up front and engage them intellectually. Then they will read the whole thing. Brevity is the soul of wit.

Rock on RT, you are my hero!

The bend is your friend!

Phish_on
11-14-2000, 10:39 AM
It is a good letter ... I think there may be too much detail.

Rather than provide the background on the whole issue, it is perhaps more important to just state our concern and our position.

Also, if there is specific action we can request --- that's kind of lost in there, I'll go read it again.

Remember Ron (whoever) is unlikely to read these letters, they will be reviewed by a staff person who will tabulate them somehow and send you the proper form letter reply. So it is fair to cut more to the bottom line.

Sport fishing. Economic importance. Short end of stick ! Not fair ! Please help ! Will vote !

Thanks RT, your letter really improved my understanding of the issue. Will write. Remember e-mail works also !
http://www.senate.gov/~wyden/mail.htm http://www.senate.gov/~gsmith/webform.htm
http://www.house.gov/writerep/

Deleted User
11-14-2000, 03:05 PM
Thanks much for the feedback guys! I will make some adjustments based on your suggestions. However, my letter will remain fairly comprehensive and hope that being a moderator of an internet webpage will encourge them to read all of it? I do think that more concise, to the points, letters will get read and be counted and that's where the big numbers from the sportsfishers of the NW must all get after it. ..... specifics:

- ISG, I will remove some CAPS and exclamation points in places. However, it galls me to think that their mentality is one that if us lower downs than those in power show duely caused anger they would discard consideration because of that! That's representing the people they were voted in by and paid to represent us? I don't think so.

- Pilar, you're right. I will condense my first 3 paragraphs into 1 so they don't fall face first into their pastry and fall asleep http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif.

- Phish, the 2 most important actions requested on our behalf are reversing the baseless emotional mandate by Secretarial order No. 3206, and then sending a clear message to the NMFS, and thus the Col. Tribal Comm., to get this thing more fair. And keep it that way in the future.

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Know fish or no fish. - RT

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THE REEL HEY_YALL
11-14-2000, 03:36 PM
I still say you should use some choice cuss words just to let them know you are somewhat aggitated, and throw in some drawn out faces and stuff....throw in a link to the ifish board too and tell them to direct all commentary to me http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Deleted User
11-22-2000, 04:22 AM
I am sending this topic back near the top of the BB to co-incide with the post of the Biologist's springers prediction.

Please review the above letter to jot down the main points and take a few moments to write your Senators and Rep.s a shorter version, to help us get a fair share of the 1/3 million springers coming up the Columbia next spring.

While director mailed tuyped letters may be somewhat more effective, if you don't have the time you can e-mail your letters to our 2 Senators and your Representive very easily by accessing the URL's Phish_on provided below:
http://www.senate.gov/~wyden/mail.htm http://www.senate.gov/~gsmith/webform.htm http://www.house.gov/writerep/

Thanks so much! - RT



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Deleted User
11-23-2000, 01:29 AM
For e-mail requests to list the mai points to write our Congressmen and Rep.'s see below.

For a letter concerning next spring's Columbia River chinook fishing allocation issue the main points to put into your own words to send to our Senators and Rep.s' are:

- NW state fishing biologist's predict over 300,000 spring chinook salmon to go up the mainstem Columbia River next spring. They have recommended an after dam impact fishing harvest be limited to a 9% impact on native fish.

- The states are losing a fish allocation negotiation process to divide the chinook deemed harvestable between the Col. Tribes and non-Indian fishers. The NMFS, which is now in control of allocation, is going along with unfair demands by the Col. Tribal Commission for the Indians to get 8.5% of this impact and only 0.5% impact for non-Indians; as unfairly occured last spring.

- The decisions for next spring are going to be decided soon, and we need fair representation. Please do what you can to help us get fair consideration and allocation of these fish that we paid for, and that the Col. Tribal treaties call for a 50/50 split of.

- Please also look into the unfair documents sent by the Dept. of the Interior to the NMFS that unfairly directed that the Indians would be the last to have their fishing curtailed by the Fed. ESA protection actions. this is not fair or consistent with Federal Court Treaty interpretations.

- We would also like you to know that all of us thousands of fishermen vote. We are going to vote for those who represent our rights in the above regards.

- Thank you. Sincerely. Etc. ..... Your name and address.

Some addresses to send letters to are above and many are in Jen's mainpage link to writing our Congressmen. Thanks so much people. - Steve (RT)

dogfishboy
11-24-2000, 12:24 AM
RT,
Man, do you ever sleep? http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif Edit: Ok, saw your post on your 'spouse' thread. Still don't know how you do it man.

I Like your condensed version, easier for me to put into my own letter, thanks.

David

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Deleted User
01-10-2001, 11:17 PM
Bringing this thread back to the top. My printer is broken, so Scott or RW if either of you can find time to print out a copy of this thread, or at least my posts for me, to use for The Hot Tamalie video session I would really appreciate it. Also a copy of the "...Indians to decide our fishing future..." thread also would be good. Thanks so much. - Steve

LIPPEE
01-10-2001, 11:55 PM
Wish I would have had a copy of this today. Smith & wyden where both over here the last two days. NICE LETTER R.T. LIP

Fishhead
01-11-2001, 12:19 AM
You go RT that letter really got me steamed. I hope they dont do some paper shuffling and some how loose it like has been known to happen. You tell them like it is!! Hang in there REMEMBER WERE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER!!!---------Fishhead Vic