FINAL POLLS: WHO SHOUD RANK HIGHER BETWEEN BEAVS and DAWGS?

[Deleted User]

Hooray for the 3 NW schools that went bowling! After watching the Rose and Fiesta Bowls today I would like to have a friendly debate over who should rank higher in the final polls; OSU or UW? ...

I have been watching the Beavs improve all season. I think they have become a monster! I would have been happier with less mistakes and more sportsmanship though. I think they were a little too jacked and left their 'awareness' somewhere else. I honestly believe the Beavs could beat Miami or Florida right now if they could cut the mistakes down. They beat Notre Dame 41 to 3 by the end of the 3rd quarter, when the starters sat down, despite setting a record for penalties. ...

I think OSU should rank ahead of UW. Their only loss was on the road up at Husky Stadium 33 to 30, after the kicker missed the tying field goal attempt. And that was well before they hit their stride and started manhandling teams. The ABC commentators said they believe the Beavs were playing the best ball in the west the second half of the season; the more important half. That's when they soundly beat the Ducks, who soundly beat the Dawgs. The X factor is the penalties; although I thought they got shafted by the referees on many bad calls (guess they were trying to help avoid the blowout for TV ratings?). ...

The Huskys played a fine game and showed more class to me, but I think the Beavers would beat them soundly on a neutral field right now. And the ratings should reflect that. ...

We'll see. What say you? Especially you Oly dudes http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif ? I know Os has been a Beaver Believer since they beat UO for him. - RT

[superfly]

Dawgs, We beat oregon st. and won the RoseBowl!!!!!!!
But the Beavs Should be right underneath the dawgs, if we get # 3 they should be #4.
Also The beavs played a way easier schedule then the Dawgs.
Peace Superfly

[Deleted User]

Good points Joe. ... Then, hypothetically, which team do you think would win if they had a week of practice/prep and played on a neutral field now?

[Bait O' Eggs]

This question is like asking Clinton if the dems or repubs are better for the nation.

I went to OSU, I have to stick with the beavers, even if they didnt know how to win with class.

[Salmonator]

The beaves lost AT Washington by 3 and missed a fg at the end to tie. Didn't the Ducks beat the Dawgs, and didn't the beaves manhandle the ducks? Beaves are the better team. http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Fish4Fun]

I have to agree with Superfly the DAWG's should be # 3 and the BEAVS should be # 4. The schedule should set the final ranking.

Fish4Fun

[HOGTIDE]

By the entire season's performance and difficulty of schedule I give the Dawgs a higher seed. However, the Beavs have PEAKED at the end of this year. I think in a matchup right now,this minute, OSU would blow by a surprised U of W.

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[rags]

If Florida State beats Oklahoma and Miami beats Florida Washington should be #1 or co-national champs with Miami. Oregon State #3 or #4. Go Beavs!

[Deleted User]

I don't think the Dawgs would be that suprised Hog'. ... And Rags, you are from Tualatin. You must have gone to U Dub? http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif jk ...

I still don't know why there isn't a national playoff system, like there is in the lower divisions! In that scenario the Beavs could have become Cinderella.

[finclipped]

Well, as a Duck fan I feel I can be fairly non partial for a Husky vs. Beaver poll. I watched both games yesterday, and despite a very good Washington team I think the Beav's are the best football team in the NW. Given the three way tie for the Pac 10, we can all go in circles about who is the best. I won't get off on a tangent, but I think the Ducks played a tougher oponent in their bowl than the Beav's or Huskies. Still I think the Beav's were the best. If the score was 60 to 3, it still wouldn't show how bad the Irish got beat.

[STRIKE ZONE]

Dog's #3 and the Beav's #4.Good luck,
STRIKE ZONE

[Phish_on]

go DUCKS

[Osprey]

I'm Back!!!!!miss me http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif
First of all Texas lost to Stanford by like 50 points so don't say they are better then Purdue.
2nd Notre Dame. is soooo over rated http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/frown.gif
We can all say what if..even the Ducks...snif snif http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif
On a neutral field the Dawgs win http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif

It was embarrassed watching the Beavs even Mrs.Os who rarely watches any football even she commented about the lack of class ,
Oh well as long as Erickson continues to recruit from the innercity he'll have this problem kinda reminds me of U of Miami Nothwest version,
but I guess when you play in a big bowl game once every 29 years you tend to get a little excited

Just glad to see the power in Pac 10 has moved North...way North
back to back Rose Bowls ....Go Dawgs....Os

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[THE REEL HEY_YALL]

You know I love hearing squabbling over football greatness out here in the Pac NW. HEEEE---LARIOUS. You haven't seen football until you see it drilled into a kid in the South since he was a sperm. That movie "Varsity Blues" doesn't even break the ice. I played for more than 10 years and I got a late start. 5 knee surgeries later, I will force my kid to play as well http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif I love/loved it and miss it. But anyway, wipe away those tears. The computer decides the standings and if UW is ranked higher, then they're ranked higher, remember UW beat Miami. Still football schedules are so weak out here. Like Wyoming is even a football club. Or Montana even. Hats off though, for the 3 NW teams to have winning seasons, but Rich is a great coach and I give him that. Ray Perkins...lmao lmao lmao what an Alabama joke there. http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[finclipped]

Hey Os, I know your big on Stats, but on September 16, 2000 Texas 24-Stanford 27, hardly 50 points. I'm trying to think, if anyone else had trouble with Stanford...HMMMM?

I still think Washington deserves the best ranking in the Pac 10. They played the toughest schedule and were tied with the best record. All legitimate claims.

Hey Yall, who is Rich? Did you mean Neuheisel?

I think the Beavers were a little over the top with their celebrations, but how much experience do they have in Bowl Blowout situations? I thought it was inappropriate the announcers made the comment that Beavers were junior college transfers with reputations of being not capable of getting in to major university's and had histories of troubled pasts. This is very unfair to the Beaver players.

"This is what happens when you have these kind of Players."(refering to the unsportsman-like conduct.)

[THE REEL HEY_YALL]

Yes I mean the new weasel.

[Osprey]

Thanks finclipped they lost to Stanford..it was Oklahoma that beet them like 60 to 14 ouch......don't even bring up Miami we should and will be ranked above them,just like I said after the ducks got lucky we'll see at the end of the year whos on top....Dawgs http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Deleted User]

Ducks got lucky? Huh? Did you watch the game Os? They pulled their padded pants down and spanked the Dawgs across their whupped @$$E$! ... The luckiest win in all of the Pac 10 this season was UW over OSU at Husky Stadium; 33 to 30!

[Osprey]

bla bla bla bla...bottom line is we are Rose Bowl champs and the Oregon schools are just second best http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

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[Steve]

I want the Scores recounted, Oregon, was the better candidate,,and better team they deserve to keep playing until they win....we'll sue until you let us win...

[Fishhead]

It's funny how during the Rose bowl the announcers kept saying the Mush dogs were the champions of the Pac-10 and not the co-champions like they refered to the MIGHTY BEAVERS at the Fiesta bowl. It seems that if you want to call a dog a dawg then you had better call a Beaver a co-champion. GO BEAVERS!!!!..AS far as the Ducks go the texas longhorns had better show some resprect the next time they play or they won't know what hit' em!......GO MIGHTY DUCKS!!!

[wiser]

All I can say is PLAYOFFS for top eight teams. BCS should be a series for top eight, no Pudues or Notre Dames allowed. It would only take two extra weeks to get a real champion and find out the Dawgs couldn't get there. The way teams were playing at the end of the season all three NW teams should have been playing to get into the championship game that would have been won, claws down, by the Beavs.

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[First Bite]

No question about it. The Beavers all the way.

[superfly]

Still the dawgs, granted the beavs only got better as the season went on, no doubt about it. But remember the beavs struggled against a div 2 team in e-wash U. Also when the dawgs played so poorly against the ducks at autzen and kept it very close. That is a definatley a sign of a good team, they did not get spanked, so who ever said that really does not no much about college football. I think that the tide has turned on northwest football though and you will see Wa. Or, and OSU constantly beating the better teams in the country, but how long will it take for the east coast sports writers to figure this out? It is nice to finally see that the Huskies don't always have to carry the torch, But I don't think osu or Oregon will ever win a national title, Wa could be there next year, lets hope so.
Also If you follow Dennis Ericksons career, you will see that he is classless and never has any control over his football teams, it is to bad because that reflects on the rest of the people in corvalis. Look at when he was at Miami and let Luther Cambell into practices and he was buying guys on the team pizza's and ****. Look at the way his team acted when they were getting there buts kicked in Miami by the dawgs back in 1994, personal foul after personal foul, He is a personal foul on northwest football, and by the way do they give him personal fouls instead of DUI's in corvalis, I would take the 15 yards instead of the 15 days of community service.
Peace Superfly

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[LIPPEE]

Ducks are the better team by far,beavers just got lucky in the civil war, wait tell next year.

[FEAR NO FISH!]

My girlfriend tries to get me to pet hers. And with the initiative passing in Washington we can't trap em. GO YOU HUSKY PHUQUERS!

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[Phish_on]

Beavs certainly win the unsportsmanlike behavior trophy. Also the 6-points-for- fumbling-on-the-2-yard line award ...
(how LAME was that?)

[Hoosier Daddy]

Uhh, someone mentioned a three way tie in the Pac10, I'm pretty sure that was a two way tie with the Beavs and Dawgs, the Ducks were one win back, until their bowl game, when everyone started talking about their ten win season. I didn't think bowls counted. Oh well, its tough for UO because they had probably their best team ever, and it got overshadowed by THE BEAVS, YESSSSSSS. Of course, I am a Beaver, but I think UW should be considered the better team, because they were able to act like they won a game before during their bowl game. OSU was acting like a bunch of hoods. I'm still ******. I don't need my alma mater running around like a bunch of crack-head gangbangers dancing around the other team. Geez. Act like an ass when you are losing, not when you are pounding the other team. Way to run up the score too Erickson, classy, just like your team. Oh, lets go for the two point conversion, again, that will be classy. Please.

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[Osprey]

OUCH that one hurt,co-champs???...in order to be a Champion you have to act like one,

The Beavs are the hottest team in the country ,not the best http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif
Big games seperate Champs from the rest the UW wins big games http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif...Os

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[finclipped]

As a part of the education process, the conference championship is determined by conference records, not overall records. Thus we can have a undefeated Pac 10 conference champ, while loosing up to 3 non- conference games. Just some clarification. However polls are a judgment on who is better, which typically favors the team with the most wins.

Also Erickson started pulling his starters with 5 minutes to go in the 3rd quarter. A true sign of a classless coach. (Wait,,, am I defending OSU to an OSU Grad?)

[THE REEL HEY_YALL]

Screw class, go for the jugular and send a message to the opposing team "You be in my house so we are going to feed you your @ss for suppa you lil bee yatch" That's why I love Steve Spurrier. Who else can consistently score 70+ ball games, while leaving the starters in? That's a sign of greatness, screw class. Class is for sissies, this is football, this is war. I admit dancing around the losing team is pretty bad, but that's what you get when you get a couple of...hmmm....together.

[parker]

I guess that all depends on how you define "rank".

If you're an UO or OSU fan, than you define "rank" by flapping you gums and telling anyone who will listen that "We're better than you!"

If you're a Dawg, you point your finger at the three "rank"ing polls that *all* list the Dawgs over the Beavs.

If you're a Coug, well...actually no one cares if you're a Coug, so never mind.

'nuf said!

Parker

[finclipped]

So, if I look at the all three polls, I can say that Miami is better than Washington. Oh wait, did't Washington beat Miami?

Wait, didn't Miami beat FSU? How can FSU be ahead in two polls?

Doh....

[THE REEL HEY_YALL]

Because it's strength of schedule my friend.

Besides, it doesn't matter because the tomahawk chop will be in serious effect from this good ol' boys seat this evening. What the crap is a Sooner anyways? Are they the arch nemesis of the Laters?

[Osprey]

It means the Sooner they beat the overhyped Seminoles then this will be a mute point,other wise I say the Dawgs deserve to share another
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[Hoosier Daddy]

Oops. I just checked and looks like the Beavs, Dawgs, and Clucks all had the same conference record, making them all co-champs, my apologies. Hey_yall: I'm pretty sure the Beav game was in Arizona, not Corvallis, so how was N.D. in "their house".

[THE REEL HEY_YALL]

I am not even talking about the beavers sending a message by trash talking. I am talking about the gators doing all the trash talking just by running up the score without dancing around with bones in their noses.

[DanS]

Does everyone realize that UW has already punked UM (Miami), UF (Florida), and OU (Oklahoma)? The only southern teams we haven't punked yet are FSU and Bama. Is there anything you could do, y'all, to arrange a game with those teams so we could punk them too?

[Roeboat]

Gotta go with the dogs over the beavers but I'm from Washington (home of mass netting). Watching this playoff between Florida State and Oklahoma, I'd take the Beavers over either team. Neither team can seem to get a play off and how about 3 interceptions in the first quarter alone? Missing a 30 yard field goal? And how can men not cheer for a bunch of Oregon cheerleaders screaming "Go Beavers"? And does anybody really know what a Sooner is?

[Hohwaiian]

Watch the movie "Far and Away," starring Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman, and you'll figure out what a Sooner is...

My AP prediction:

1) Oklahoma
2) Washington
3) Miami
4) Oregon State
5) Virginia Tech
6) Florida State
7) Nebraska
8) Oregon
9) Florida
10) Michigan

[Deleted User]

The Sooners have as viscious a defense as the Beavers! How could they be picked 12 pt. pre-game underdogs?!?

My AP prediction:

1- Oklahoma
2- Miami
3- Washington
4- Oregon State
5- Florida State

[chuck 'n' duck]

Don't get me wrong, I am a Beaver Believer. Unfortunately, the fact remains that the Dawgs beat the Beavs. All of us Beav fans wish we could have that game back, but we will have to wait until next year to whoop the Dawgs ass in Corvallis.

On a more positive note, the Beav's defense made the Irish O look like a pop warner team. Utter domination like that should at least force BCS to rank us higher than V. Tech.

My prediction:

#1 Oklahoma
#2 FSU
#3 UW
#4 Miami
#5 OSU

CnD

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[Predator Dawg]

Enjoy this Beav fans. Soon enough Erickson will get caught making the team payroll again and then its back to the conference patsy roll. The real question will be whom the offical doormat is between WSU and OSU. http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Dawgs won the straight up game, nuff said. Save the coulda, woulda, shoulda for the field next year and then prove it. You had your chance.

I doubt being number 2 or 3 or 4 in the country will hurt the recruiting effort for either school. Even O should do well. It would be great to see these three schools pound the surfer schools down south for many years to come. Got love it. I'm glad all three had wonderful seasons and that we have the oppotunity to have these friendly debates. Heres to doing it again next year!!

[THE REEL HEY_YALL]

I figured out what a Sooner was last night, and I have to say, that was the best game I have seen all year as far as college football goes, and it's the first time I have ever seen Oklahoma play. A Sooner was Sooner we score against Bobby Bigdaddy Bowden Boys the Sooner we can hand them their @sses on defense. Spectacular displays of defense shown by both teams! Great hits, reminds me of the old days of giving concussions playing outside linebacker/strong safety. Too bad Chris couldn't have slapped the Weinke to some of his receivers because they really sucked last night, and too many missed opportunities for TDs cost them the game. So ya want me to set up a Bama ass whoopin' for ya huh? I would much rather see them play South Carolina. Since DuBose left Bama, I can't arrange that game (sorry), maybe I could have considering he lived up the road from my family. I really wouldn't mind seeing Alabama get beat by another PacNW and that's my alma mater. I am just going to keep quiet until pride returns to that program, until then BOW WOW baby, Go DAWGS.

[finclipped]

Did anyone hear what the Miami coach said about the Pac 10? I didn't watch the halftime junk, but evidently he had some unflattering things about Washington and the Pac-10 in general.

[Predator Dawg]

He pointed out that Miami beat FSU so if FSU had beat OK, then Miami should be the champs. When it was pointed out to him that Washington had the same record and beat Miami, he said that the Pac 10 was rather weak this year and that Miami should remain ahead of Washington due to strength of schedule. I guess he forgot that the Pac 10 finished the pre-bowl season with 3 teams in the top ten......

[superfly]

I know that was a bunch of crap,What butch Davis said, The dawgs had one of the toughest schedules in the country this year and then look what they got next year, **** anyways, I think Uof O would give miami a game and that the way the gangbangers, I mean convicts I mean the Beavs played the other night I think they could have beat Miami and that they actually would have made the Miami players look like good citezens, imagine that. Any ways I don't see butch Davis running out hear to schedule any more non conference games so that has got to tell you something. The conference he plays in is definatley no powerhouse, so he best put his money were his mouth is about pac 10 football, because he got beat here.
Peace Superfly

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