Used Loomis value?

[Grant Scheele]

I have a 2 year old Loomis that I am thinking about selling but I have no idea what to ask.
It is an 9'IMX str1082s 6-10lb spinning rod in excellant condition that retailed for $333.00. Would you guys mind telling me what you have sold other Loomis Steelhead rods for or what you have paid for them in the past? Thanks. Grant

[THE REEL HEY_YALL]

Selling it will be tough because someone will have to take it off of ya so you can make room in your boat...so I will gladly help you out and take your rod for $10 Hey now I am doing a service. I could charge you http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Hookset]

What it's worth is what someone would pay. Why don't you place an add in the classified section of IFish and ask people to make offers.

Now lets see, any new purchase automatically looses 20% when you walk out the door, then normal wear and tear nocks another 25% each year, then you subtract for nicks and scratches, then subtract for cleaning, subtract for no guarantee (isn't it original purchaser only?) now what's that add up to?

I'll start the bidding at $25. I'll even drive over tonight and pick it up, thanks.

Almost forgot, I have several Loomis rods, just never wanted to sell one. I can always find a reason or excuse to keep and buy more rods. You can never have enough, just my opionion of course.

hook

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[GutZ]

$30

[Hookset]

$31

[Grant Scheele]

$32

[THE REEL HEY_YALL]

$32.50 and that's not my final offer, but I will need 25 bucks back for gas money home http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Hookset]

ok ok, I'll go a little higher,

$35..........I like round figures.

hey, wait a minute, this isn't fair! OMykiss is bidding for his own rod? Am I missing something?

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[Bait O' Eggs]

o mykiss
Is that $32 an offer to buy, or sell? Must be sell since you already own it.

Sold, I will take it. $32

[Grant Scheele]

I was at the Portland auto auction last week and I saw a few owners bidding on their own rigs trying to get the price higher so I thought if it worked on high rollers it might work here. You caught me. Anyway, the bid seems to be at $36 now. Right?

[Hookset]

wrong! $40

[Grant Scheele]

$41

[V. Green]

How long will the bidding go on? I might have to keep a watch on this http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Does Jennie need to create an Auction section?



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[Tanner]

I'll give you 80 bucks for it and drive down tomorrow and take it off of your hands.

[Salmonator]

Grant didn't I loan you an STR1082 last summer?

[Grant Scheele]

Joe, yes, but now that I have your rod I don't need this one anymore.

By all means I like the idea of a bidding war for my rod but I started this thread as a way to set a price. If anyone has any real ideas as to what I should ask please let me know. No matter how this ends I like your comedy. You all have made my day!!

$81?

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[Tanner]

Mine was not comedy. It was a sincere offer.$80.00. Rods depreciate pretty fast even if it is a Loomis. How many times has it been used and what was it used for? How many fish were caught on it?

[Centerpin]

I will trade you a 100 pack of selected Beany Weenie Pink Worms and a dozen Canadian style floats.

[Phish_on]

I'm non-profit, if you donate it to me you could deduct it from your income taxes.

[smilesforu]

I will trade 5 birdie drifters, 10 old oakies and a box of 9263e hooks. And a spool of vanish 14 lb line (ok I will pay you take the line). Actually if you want to sell it just put it on ebay and let the bidding begin. Put a reserve on it so you don't give it away because nobody can find it.
tight Lines

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Steelheader.net (http://www.steelheader.net/)

[Grant Scheele]

Is Ebay hard? It seems so complicated.

[Gizmo Man]

To determine price, ask yourself at what price would I pay for it. You know the condition, we don't.

The fact it sells for $330 today represents what a new one with a warranty.

From selling used fishing gear, you are probably looking at 40 to 50% of new.

A good place to look is on Ebay. Do a search on completed sales and see if any rods like yours recently sold.

Also remember, that many of the guides out there get there rods on a guide program for about 50% off from Loomis. They turn there gear over every yr or 2.

Put the rod on the four sale bb and ask a price. See if you get any interest. If it goes too fast, you sold too low. If you get no offers, you are asking too much.

My guess since it is a popular rod is to start at about $175 if it is in v. g. condition. Clean cork, clean rod, no major nicks or scrapes. Less if it has been repaired or fished hard.

Good luck.

Giz... $81.50 http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Grant Scheele]

The rod is in great shape. Hardly used. Clean cork and no nicks and a warranty that Loomis will probably still honor. I think that I will try the Ebay completed sales trick. What button do I push after I find Ebay?

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[Salmonator]

I'm pretty sure that loomis's program is a no questions asked policy. Pay a set fee (45 bucks?), get a new rod. That should help you sell my STR.

[Snagly]

I think this fellow deserves a serious answer to his question, and all you all are doing is trying to get his rod on the cheap. Shame! Shame!!

The Loomis guarantee is transferable, so irrespective of the condition of your rod, at it's LOWEST price it's still worth the retail price of a new IMX, less $45. Loomis pays the postage each way. (This is called the GL Xpeditor service, and Loomis ships anywhere in the US 2nd day UPS.) As long as this guarantee is in place, I'd say used Loomis rods should hold their value extremely well.

If you'd like to check with Loomis directly to confirm that my 6-month old information is still accurate, then try loomis@gloomis.com or 1-800-662-8818 and they'll set you straight. (I'd make the call myself but it's not toll free from over here.)

Of course, if you really, really want to sell it, I'll give you $85 for it (plus postage) . . . .

[Grant Scheele]

Thanks Snagly, that is kind of what I thought. If a guy is getting ready to spend $333. on a new rod and runs into mine, which looks new, you would think he would jump at $250.00. That is a $83.00 savings.


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[Centerpin]

When those worms I sent you start catching fish I bet you will reconsider my offer http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Fishen Fool]

Seems to me that O.Mykiss could give that rod to his Dad for Christmas!!

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[Amerman]

Grant,
Remember that day we went fishing together last winter on the Nestucca, and you were showing me how to launch over the bank at Blaine. We were launching your boat when the rope broke and just before the boat hit the water, it came to a hard stop, and your 9'IMX str1082s flew out of the boat. Remember how sad we were when you thought it was gone? Then how happy and embarassed you were when we found it at the take out later? Thank god the hook caught on the anchor rope on the way out of the boat(too bad we didn't check before we drifted the whole river). Then at the end of the day I consoled you by saying you could always just sell it and get your money back at least. IS THIS THAT SAME ROD?

[Grant Scheele]

No Scott, that was the Salmonators rod. Thanks a lot! http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/frown.gif


Centerpin, did you say worms? By the time they get here that package is going to be pretty ripe.

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[Hookset]

Ok Grant, lets get serious here. I'll trade you a 100 pack of red and white glo gos for your rod. These glo gos are collector items and could easily sell for over $200.

what do you say?

hook

[Grant Scheele]

Boy if you only knew how much I love red & white go-glo's. I have a small stash that I don't use because I don't want to run out. But it is Xmas time and I need cash. Sell the glows and we can talk. Grant

[Deleted User]

Cool thread Grant. I'm a former used penguin salesman. And selling used rods is kind of like selling used penguins; you just have no idea what they've been thru. Also, why does someone want to sell a good rod to keep? In your case however, I think people can definitely trust you and the transferable warranty. - RT



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[Amerman]

Ok Ok Grant I think I remember the rod now. Is that the rod you took with us the three times we went steelhead fishing together last winter. You remember the days; they were all about the same. You would row until I caught my first fish, usually still within site of the boat put in. Then I would row the rest of the day while you cast the water with your 9'IMX str1082s. Then at the end of the day we would all feel bad that you hadn't landed a fish (me because I had rowed the whole way) even though the boat had hooked like ten fish. You remember, all three days were the just about the same.

I think you also brought the rod the day we fished the Santiam for springers. You should remember that day too. We took my boat since I figured I would row anyway (or should I say motor). I think the day went something like this; at the beginning of the day we were all having fun, hopeful of all the fish we were going to catch, remember even you (winter was long since over). The day ended with me finally saying something like, "Grant, I don't care if you want to wait until you catch your own fish. This is the 25th fish we have hooked, and if you won't take my pole with this one, we will have to let it go too, and you were supposed to go to a meeting two hours ago (remember that was your old job)." Now I know 25 fish springer days don't come along every day, and I don't blame you for not wanting it to end, but the way you demanded on landing your own and having to fish with that same rod all day (the rod I have never seen catch a fish) will make it stand out in my memory.

IS THIS THAT ROD?

If so, I will Bid $90 I know that rod has a lot of fish left in it.

[Grant Scheele]

Scott, your little stories about me were funny until you started telling the truth. That Springer story will always keep me grounded when I get to feeling that I am a good fisherman. But no, the rod I was using that day was made to catch Salmon.

I think that you are lying about paying $90.00 for my rod. You have never paid $90.00 for a rod in your entire life. In fact, looking in your boat I suspect you have never paid 25.00.
I think that if you put my beautiful G.Loomis rods into one of your ancient boats it would turn into a yellow Eagle Claw. So what if your yellow Eagle Claws outfish my $300.00 Loomis's. Besides,you need the exercise that yrowing all day gives you.

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[Salmonator]

I think this is the rod he used to jimmy the lock on his explorer when he left his keys in the truck at the Wiley Creek boat ramp

[Grant Scheele]

Nope, that was your rod.

[Grant Scheele]

Scott, I am glad that you have taken the advice of that self esteem building book that I lent you. Grant

[Snagly]

Scott and Grant, the last time I laughed so hard reading a bulletin board was over on one of the BC threads where Centerpin was yanking some fly fishers' chains about putting fresh steelhead roe on butt green skunks to increase hook-ups and other stuff.

Sounds like you guys really enjoy fishing (even together, kind of).

Just one question. How can someone be in a boat where there are 25 hook-ups and not have . . . ONE on his own? Is this the day you used nothing but red and white glo-glo's? If so I can understand why a couple a dozen is worth $200 -- if they can shutdown a fishing 'partner' that completely, they're worth it.

$91. Last offer.

[Salmonator]

Poor Grant, ask him how many fish we hooked on a day where I had predicted the night before that I would hook 5 to his 2...

[Grant Scheele]

You guys are just great for my guide business. Not!!

[Salmonator]

And notice who the two biggest instigators are http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[fishhead5]

Found one on ebay. The bidding is starting out at $180, no bids yet still has a day left on it. I typed in gloomis imx in the search. Don't listen to these bozos http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/tongue.gif I'll give you top doller for your rod say $101 Just give me the work I'll cut you a check tommrow, you need to send the rod first. http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Amerman]

Snagly, how does someone fish in a boat that has 25 hookups and not land one? Well with that question. It's obvious that you have never met Grant. No, I am kidding. Grant is a great fisherman (there Grant that should help out your guide business). It happened like this. The first half of the day I was using my egg cure; Grant and the third person were using his (I don't think Grant uses that one anymore). After about half the fish were caught on my bait, the third person started using my bait. When he started catching fish too, I finally talked Grant into using it. I didn't have to try too hard. I think I said something like, "ok Grant, I think we have made a point." So Grant took a bait and hooked a fish right away. I say hooked because after swinging for the fences with built up excitement, he didn't have the fish anymore or a hook for that matter. But I would bet that the fish is still hooked. The second one he hooked he lost at the boat as he did with the first one I handed him. By this point, Grant was so fired up he managed to release the next three or four he hooked or was handed without having to net any of them. Grant is a true C&R sportsman. Sometimes he even skips the catching part; as he will tell you, that is the hardest on the fish. Finally someone handed Grant the pole with a fish on and it made it to the net. At that point we ran out of my bait. Still having Grant's bait and some guide's choice the person had brought, we fished a little more, but the bite stopped.
That is how it happens and yes I believe all the above fact to be true. Well except for the part about running out of my bait(don't tell Grant)I faked that so I could go home.

[Salmonator]

Scott, are you between seasons or what? This sudden flurrie of posts is unlike you...

[Grant Scheele]

Joe, Isn't is Obvious? I ran out of money to buy his eggs so now he doesn't have to be nice to me anymore. This is just pent up meanness.

Also, Scott is lying. I never did land a fish that day, handed rod or mine.

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[Salmonator]

owww, the more I think about it, the timing IS just too obvious

[Amerman]

Joe I am in what is called a coast storm. I also am taking a couple of weeks off to spend with the family. Fishing about 75 days in a little over 2 1/2 months while running a salmon egg business I think I was ready for a day off too. Grant you are wrong and I believe that if call the third person from that day he will back my story. Or maybe your wife will remember the fact that you brought home fish. I am sure that doesn't happen to her very often. I think you told me it was the only way she was not going to kill you that day. Since you had a meeting at 1 or so that you never made it to.

[superfly]

Man this is great to hear about grants great adventures, Of course I would never hear about any of this **** if it wasn't for all of you guys! I think grant needs to sell his rods so he can buy some allstar rods and have some money leftover to buy his wife some nice lingerie since he is finally getting it again. Ask him about the night he was suppossed to go out with me in sea-town, I think he got scared and had to tell me he was sick, not like me in the head, and run back home to hooterville, I mean albany. Any way grant, give me a call and I will get those rods ordered up for you.
Peace Superfly !!!!

[Amerman]

Grant, as they say sometimes, truth is funnier than fiction. I am starting to feel sorry for you with Joe, me and everyone else picking on you. But I will get over it. I figure if you sell me that rod at $90, I will cut off one of the guides and duct tape another and no one will be any the wiser. The truth is Grant my rods look like they have been used because they have been. Some of them have even caught a fish or two. At least I know when we go fishing, and we leave the rods in the boat to go back for the car, I now my rods will still be there when we get back.
I kept waiting to see when you did your highs and lows like other people did on this board how it looked and which one that day would have ended in. Since you never got to it, I will have to do them for you.

O.Mykiss's highs and lows:

High
Meeting Scott Amerman (I had to list this first)
Going fishing with Scott Amerman
Relearning my rivers, Siletz and Santiam, while fishing with Scott Amerman
Having a 25 hookup springer day with Scott Amerman
Getting inside tips as to where the hotspot was every week from Scott Amerman
Borrowing Joe's 9'IMX str1082s ( had to throw that in since it is the reason for the thread)

Lows
Not landing a fish I myself hooked on a 25 hookup day
Getting a new job that doesn't let me fish as much
Not being able to tell everyone else what SA tells me every week.
Not going where SA told me the hotspot was for three streight weeks then going there and hooking 8 Fall nooks
Not fishing with SA more
Starting this stupid thread

To show again that the truth is funnier than fiction, I will tell you about the kids that stole a rod out of my boat a couple of years ago at three rivers. After fishing the river, my clients were in a hurry to get back to Portland, so I left my boat with no one watching it at three rivers. Figuring I would be quick, I left all my tackle and rods in the boat. There was no one at three rivers fishing. When I got back to my boat, I noticed that one of my rods was no longer in my boat. What I noticed was that of the six rods in my boat (2 G-Loomis rods, 3 lamiglas rods and my Eagle claw bobber rod), the one that these kids decided to take was not the one closest to the edge. It was the one in the middle, yes that's right Grant, it was my eagle claw (no it's not yellow). Now knowing that whoever had stolen my rod was not real bright, I went home, dropped off my boat, picked up my car, and went looking at all the local bank fishing spots. By the time I found them, they had taken off the reel and all tackle and were casting a small spinner with my bobber rod. After a short talk, I explained that I was going to leave, and that I had a feeling that everything I had lost would show back up at the local sporting goods shop. If not, I knew who they were (they were adamant that I had the wrong guys). Within 15 minutes of getting home, Ron the local shop owner called to say everything I had lost was left just outside his store.

[Deleted User]

Hey Jen, maybe it's time to start charging ad fees for blatant product pushing in threads by these guys? http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif And Grant, that serves you right for giving these guys asertiveness skills with that 'Improve Your Self Esteem' book you gave them. ... OK, just kidding around. But geez, you three guys quit pickin' on that nice Grant. He catches fish. ... Doesn't he? http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif

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[Amerman]

Ok everyone, I will say that in Grant's defense most of all this fish losing business wasn't really his fault. He was using vison hooks.
R.T., would blatant product pushing be like talking about a book that some day may come out? Or getting free jigs, bragging them up to everyone, then getting more (if this one counts, maybe I need to give you some eggs). Or were you just talking about the guy with the glo-go's.
Sorry R.T. if it seems like we are picking on Grant, But thanks for joining the post. Really what we are doing is building Grant's self-esteem. See, he told he thought it would be cool if a topic he posted got a ton of responses (since he had never had one do that). So I figure the more times we post on his thread, the better he feels. Is it working Grant?
Joe, the real reason for the flurry of posts from me is I just realized I am only 1715 posts behind R.T. for most posts on this board.

[Grant Scheele]

You know Superfly, my wife has been following this post but I don't think that I can let this happen anymore since you posted. Maybe some editing would be appropriate? If it makes you feel any better I wasn't using Vision hooks that day but the other guy in the boat, Whit, limited that day using Vision.

Scott, I took home a fish that day but I don't think I landed it. I will ask Whit but I remember losing everyfish handed to me. I can also remember you throwing your rod down a couple of time in frustration for the fish you were losing. In fact, you were so frustrated at one time you threw your rod down before the fish even got off because you thought you were doing something wrong. Yes, that fish eventually fell off to. I will never forget the day that SA doubted himself.

Did you really have eggs left?

[superfly]

Grant , First of all I did not say anything bad about your wife, the Time I met her she was nice to me but mad at you for leaving the house a mess while she was gone. Second to dude bad mouthing vision hooks, there is nothing wrong with them, they are a great hook for a great price, Me and all my X-gammy staffers that are on my staff sure have no problem hooking and landing allot of fish with them, with no breakage, imagine that. Besides they haave nothing but good things to say about them, especially when they no longer are not paying 120.oo to 160.00 per thousand for them like they had to for gammy's. So maybe you should open up your mind and try some. ASs far as editing goes, #*it, I haven't said any thing wrong in my post to edit, but after this I got plenty to say!
Peace Superfly

[Grant Scheele]

Superfly, take a chill pill. Scott has used Vision hooks and doesn't have a problem with them. He was just trying to give me a hard time. Besides, he is so cheap that he thinks vision's cost to much. He only uses free hooks, (that's how he came to try Vision) or whatever else he can scrounge up off of the bank at Three Rivers. I have been in his boat, he has no preference and uses whatever he finds in his garage. Guides get a lot of free stuff.

[Deleted User]

Look up in that left corner and see how mad I am. Not. Was, for a bit. I'll tell ya what Scott. Go back and read my post again, and notice my comment "OK, I'm just kidding around ..." . Also, I have an agreement with Jen for book promo here as comp for BB moderating and contributing useful fishing techs. Don't say much about the book though. As for the jig reviews, Roger of Silent Approach and Mike of Rainbow jigs (via his post under his moniker) offered me free jigs. They both got back checks from me paying for the jigs anyway, and indication that I prefer to pay for them so my reviews won't have credibility concerns. You mention that I "bragged them up". I think it is obvious where the heavy bragging is in this post thread. http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif But that's alright Scott, I remember early on after I became proficient at fishing how I wanted everyone to know about it. It's normal, just not becoming or endearing though. ... The same could be said of me here now with my tech posts, but that's not what it's about for me; I try to help less experienced fishers become proficient, and I'm trying to finish a book at the same time. - RT

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[Salmonator]

Grant, what you said about guides getting free stuff must apply to full-timers only 'cause I don't get squat. Matter of fact I pay you your reg price for swivels don't I? And for that matter I was paying full price for scotts fresh eggs too! I can't wait until I have something you both need, gonna charge you double.
RT, it has actually been a long time since I have heard ANYTHING about your book and was going to ask you how it was coming along. Joe

[Deleted User]

Thanks Joe. You haven't seen anything about my book because the only time I post anything about it is on occassion when someone asks about it, as you did here. To be honest, I am not proud of the caliber of procrastinator I've become. I have a very large stack of 8 by 11's with a book in it. It's sort of like with spring cleaning time or jumping into an unheated chilly swimming pool. I don't have to do any of those things but want to get it done. As I recently told Jen and Nick, I will jump into that pile soon. Pretty soon. Well, fairly soon in the not-too-distant future. Soon as in sometime before too long. ... Help! ... Nah, jk. I hope to have a manuscript in for copyrighting before I get caught up in the spring 'nook season. - Steve

[Grant Scheele]

Geez, I leave my computer for most of day and my fun post comes to this. Scott is gone to Florida for a week but I can guarantee you this, he meant everything he wrote in fun. I haven't talked to him but it looks like he was razzing you back for razzing him about his sales techniques.

Joe, I have cut you a better deal everytime I have sold you swivels. Sorry you feel screwed. Even Scott pays more than you.

RT, tell Joe that you never got anything for free when you were guiding or even now. As far as plugging a product that you get for free. That's cool as long as you really believe in it. That's called networking and if you don't do it you don't succeed sales. I don't believe for a minute that you would sell out and promote something that you don't like just because it's free so I appreciate it when you get free stuff to try out. It helps all of us.

Anyway, I would trade that rod for a nice casting or steelhead bobber rod if anyone is interested.

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[Hookset]

Grant,

I thought you were looking for money and not wanting to trade? I've got a few rods I could trade. Are you looking for only G Loomis rods? What specific type of casting or bobber rod (modle)?

Anything else your looking to trade for?
Did you ever figure out a price for your rod? Curious minds just want to know.

thanks,

hook

[Grant Scheele]

I need a 8 1/2' drift rod or a 10' plus bobber rod. No spinning please. What do you got and I love G.Loomis.

[superfly]

Let Me see here grant, I have about 35 to 40 different float and drift rods in my possesion at this time, what do you want, And they even come with a lifetime warranty were they won't charge you when you send it back in for repair, imagine that.
Also give my best to the mrs. and what's up with the hookup down there?
Laters Superfly!
P.S by the way grant I have already caught two huge hatchery fish, one at 18 lbs 10 ozs, and then a smaller one at 16 1/2 lbs, we have just been killing em!!!!!

[Salmonator]

Hey SF, what was your favorite kiddies book when you were growing up. Was it... GREEN EGGS AND SPAM??

[superfly]

My favorite book when I was a kid fishing holes magazine, my favorite book as a teenager Probably Penthouse magazine, I remember showing them to my girlfriends and saying yeah I can't wait until you look like that!!!
Peace Superfly