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David Johnson
12-15-2000, 10:49 AM
Just to let you all know were I am coming from.

I am a fishing guide, been one for seven years in Oregon and Alaska and recently in Washington.

I grew up fishing the Clackamas River, been fishing there 17 years. Fished the coast for 15.

I have a degree in Fisheries, I have worked for the ODFW as a biological aid, limited commercial fished in Alaska, worked for a private hatchery in AK for two seasons, worked in sporting goods retail for six years and done a fair share of writing for outdoor publicatins.

I ahve been around all angles of this industry.

I totaly and strongly support catch and release of all native fish, even if there is a sustainable amount of them (like southern Oregon or places in the Olimpic Paninsula were you can keep native fish). I agree with the idea that wild fish are "better" than hatchery fish. I think that hatchery fish should be taken home. I would rather have some fish (hatchery) than no fish or very few wild fish.

My first steelhead I released because it was native. That was back when you cuold have kept it and after I had spent two entire winters fishing with out one single fish. Even back then I thuoght native fish should be preserved.

I hope you guys don't take me as a meat hungery river *****, I'm not. I do like to see people catch fish. I'm not out there to get every last fish, I'm out there to feed my family and enjoy the best job in the world.

I would love to see the rivers like they used to be, but it will not happen. Man kind has stopped that from happening.

In the next few years we are looking at the best fishing in the last century. The ocean conditions and the habitat in Western Oregon is the best it has been in 80 years. Biologist predictins are looking very good for the next few years. Predictions for the Columbia spring run is 346,000 and next fall columbia coho run is expected at 1 million plus......


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Clamman
12-15-2000, 11:38 AM
Dave,

First some housecleaning . The predicted upriver spring chinook run is 364,600 adults. The fall chinook prediction is 400,000 fish of which 145,000 are tule stock and the rest an assortment of upriver fish. The coho prediction is not in as of yet, but it appears to be at least a million fish if not 50% more.

Yes we have a lot of hatchery fish returning this coming year, but our wild ESA listed stocks for the most part are still keeping the harvest levels down. Even with 100% of the hatchery fish marked, as long as the ESA components are low it is those fish that drive the harvest.

Hatchery fish are made to be caught after you factor out hatchery egg take needs. These new ESA rules do not exclude hatchery fish from also being listed. Yet another interesting component to harvest management.


The upcoming spring and fall seasons will most likely be driven by what % impact non-tribal fisheries are allowed coupled with not only Snake and Upper Columbia Listed fish but also impacts on Upper Willamette stocks. Current numbers being talked about now, if NMFS grants a 2% impact for Upper Columbia and Snake River springers, is a 4,000 mainstem quota Whack and Stack for the month of March. April might see a limited selective fishery for adipose fin-clipped fish (depending upon the % of upriver springers that are marked), though the Upper Willamette ESU's are going to make it very difficult to do without impacting the mainstem Willamette fishery.

These management practices are alot more complex than this board or myself even attempts to explain. I strongly suggest that anyone who wants a more detailed description of what processes are needed to have a fishery, check out the ODFW web page and look at the Fisheries Management and Evaluation Plan for the Upper Willamette Spring chinook.


ISG

Deleted User
12-15-2000, 02:47 PM
Hey Dave, if you want more credibilty you need to remove the 6" bold lettered "MEAT HUNGRY RIVER ***** Guide Service" signs off your sled. ... jk http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif . Really glad to have your knowledgable contributions on the BB. Thanks much. - Steve (RT)