Hagg Lake Hogg Pics [Archive]

fishlipper

06-28-2006, 01:52 PM

Not trying to say it is not a 7lb fish, just look at the head and tail and body of Daves fish and tell me they look the same. Not even close, but maybe Badwoods fish is twice as long as daves :wink: Badwood, not trying to be an azz but just tough to compare the two, and I know how hard it is to catch that big of fish, so when you do it has got to be what you are saying. Just say it absolutely 7lbs by scale and I will shut up. One more thing, according to some bass calculators I have looked at, with the dimensions you gave your fish should be closer to 8.4 lbs. They tend to be pretty close with girth and length dimensions given.

MacFish

06-28-2006, 02:30 PM

Get a Bassmaster magazine and look at the lunker page and try to pick the biggest fish. Chances are you'll pick a 10 pound fish over a 14 pound fish, it's all in the way the pictures taken. I believe Badwood's the victim of a bad picture (actually a really bad picture) of a really nice fish, that with those dimensions weighs all of 7 lbs. :twocents:

fishlipper

06-28-2006, 02:55 PM

I have looked at numerous fish that size, and have weighed a couple myself, but I am comparing it to Daves fish in the picture above. Usually when you take a pic that close up it makes the fish looks huge and bigger than it should. Dave's fish is taken from the front of the boat, and he is not holding it out in front of him to make it look huge. The pictures on Bassmaster that are tough to judge are the ones where guys are holding their fish an arm length away from their bodies. I think Daves picture is a great example of what to compare badwoods fish with. :twocents:

MacFish

06-28-2006, 03:17 PM

this illustrates the importance of only fishing with good photographers :grin:

fishlipper

06-28-2006, 03:19 PM

I hear you :grin:

Dave Smith

06-28-2006, 03:56 PM

Yeah, I'd be trying to get my money back on that scale- 7 pounders in Hagg get an amazing gut on them- even in summer- just like a florida fish out of Casitas or San Vicente. Doesn't matter: IT'S A PIG and a trophy for sure! Hagg LM are TOUGH! and cracking one this time of year is a feat. Bad Wood: You are a man among unics! Nice work, BRA. Dave

fishlipper

06-28-2006, 04:01 PM

Very well said :cheers:

Bad Wood 75

06-28-2006, 04:02 PM

http://www.ifish.net/gallery/data/500/bass23.jpg
Here is another pic of the fish. I did have it weighed on a digital scale. I thought it was alot bigger than 7 when I caught it but I did have it weighed by a guy who was out fishing by me. I dont know if his scale was wrong or not but it was a digital and it said 7.05 pounds. When you catch a fish that big you are pretty pumped up and dont question a new scale, but I can garruntee that it was 7.05 on the scale.

fishlipper

06-28-2006, 04:12 PM

That fish looks like a solid 4 1/2 to 5.lbs to me. Very nice fish, I would be very happy catching fish like that. Please look at the fish I posted and look at the pictures you posted and you will see the difference in the fish. Look at the head, look at the tail and look at the belly of Dave's fish. I will say no more on this subject. Again congrats on a good fish.

fishnfun

06-28-2006, 06:12 PM

Ya I'd say five or more for sure.
This spring I caught a largemouth that I thought for sure would go an easy 7, when I weighed it on a digital scale it was 5.32. Still a great fish for oregon.

ExBassGuide

06-28-2006, 06:16 PM

Bad wood is not small like me and that makes the fish look smaller. He is not holding the fish out infront of the camera, and that will make the bass look smaller. Bad wood I know one thing THAT IS A VERY NICE BASS!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks for sharing!
Roger

portlandstatekid

06-28-2006, 10:15 PM

you the man!
:smash:

fishingfreak

06-28-2006, 10:21 PM

congrats on the fish

boblag

06-28-2006, 10:45 PM

I'm with EBG on this. The question should be "how much does Bad Wood weigh?" Imagine Shaq is holding that fish; then it would be a 10 lb'er easy. And that picture of DS is a little deceiving; could his head really fit in that bass's mouth?

Fishwater

06-29-2006, 12:08 AM

i was thinking the same thing about shaq', not only is the hagg hawg bigger,BAD WOOD 75 is also way bigger than the guy holding the other bass. just a little FYI the ODFW website says state record smallmouth was caught in hagg lake in 2000 by angler nick rubeo 81.76lbs!! ( a typo ????) :yeahthat: ( thanks portlandstatekid!)

iangler

06-29-2006, 01:36 AM

I dunno, from the picture Bad Wood 75 looks like a BIG guy. I know I'm pretty tall and when I take pictures the bass sure look smaller then when my buddies hold em.

portlandstatekid

06-29-2006, 02:47 AM

i was thinking the same thing about shaq', not only is the hagg hawg bigger,BAD WOOD 75 is also way bigger than the guy holding the other bass. just a little FYI the state record smallmouth was caught in hagg lake in 2000 by angler nick rubeo 81.76lbs. (not a typo) :yeahthat:

~Bass, Smallmouth 8 lb, 1.76 oz 05/10/05 Henry Hagg Lake Nick Rubeo ( http://obpc0.tripod.com/id13.html )~

fishlipper

06-29-2006, 08:01 AM

I never said anything about how whoever was holding the fish, but come on guys look at the second picture and tell me this fish weighs 7lbs or the 1st pic for that matter. The size of this fish does not add up. Are we all really looking at the same pictures. One last thing, look at the head, tail, and girth of Dave Smith's picture that I posted and then look at Badwoods pictures. Am I the only one that thinks this bass is at leas 2 lbs. shy of 7. It really does not matter. Badwood says it is 7lbs I will take his word, besides he looks like a big guy and I don't want to get :smash: Nice fish and I am done.

Dave Smith

06-29-2006, 08:20 AM

No, fishlipper, your not the only one, it is just kind of a moot point. I try to carry two scales, one of which is constantly calibrated. By next spring I may have certified scales on my boat. With no scale at all, all a guy can do is borrow one, and take it's "word". If you held a gun to my head and told me I had to guess that fish's weight, correctly, I would say something like 4-14, but considering all things, the next thing I would hear would probably be a gun shot. I just can't get over how gorgeous and cool those Hagg LM are- I am definately gettin me one of those!!!!! I haven't gone after them in a while. Once again, and all of us agree, that is a great fish and a great catch! Dave

Bad Wood 75

06-29-2006, 08:41 AM

Yes it is a great fish and like some people where saying I look like a big guy. I played college football and I am 6'3 and weigh 300 pounds so i do kind of dwarf this fish

fishlipper

06-29-2006, 08:43 AM

I hear you Dave. We are going to have to get out sometime and break in those certified scales :cheers:

fishlipper

06-29-2006, 08:48 AM

Badwood,
Hope you don't take anything I am saying as a personal attack. I have a 4 day bass fishing trip planned from July 8-11 going down south to fish Cooper Creek (At Night), Umpua river during the day, and heading down to Tenmile and Eeel lake on the 10-11, and I hope I catch a fish as good as the one you caught at Hagg. I think I am getting to high strung for this trip, and need to relax a bit. That being said every time I have gone to Hagg I get worked, so my hat is off to you.

Fishlipper

Basscaster

06-29-2006, 08:57 AM

Pics can be really deceiving. If the measurements he gave are correct, that fish could easily be 7 pounds. A 23 inch long bass is a good one. The part that bothers me is that it looks like its dead. I hope I'm wrong and it got released. I'm with Dave, it pays to have accurate scales on board. Its the only way to really tell. I've caught 18" fish that weighed 4.25 lbs and 18" fish that weighed 3 pounds. I just got my Cul-M-Rite XL back yesterday from getting recalibrated. I checked it against my certified postal scale at work and it was within a few hundredths of a pound on everything I could find to weigh. The accuracy is nice to have for tournaments, but also if lightning strikes and I catch a good one. I still have no idea how much my personal best largemouth weighed because the guy I was with did not have a scale on his boat. It was so much bigger than any fish I've ever caught I can't even estimate it. It could have been 8 or 10, I have nothing to compare it against. It still bothers me to this day. You guys would never believe where I caught it either. I was with a buddy and we were just out running his boat on the Willie in downtown Portland. Screwing around catching a few smallies and bam. Figures. All I have are a couple pics and a mark on my rod for the length. It was pushing 24" in length and was about as fat of prespawn fish as you will see.

Dave Smith

06-29-2006, 10:14 AM

Dang, Pete! Did you get any pictures? That sounds like a brute. Couldn't you have taken in the livewell and got it weighed at a store? I will calibrate the weight for you so you have some "closure" but need more info.........

Basscaster

06-29-2006, 12:18 PM

Yeah Dave, it was a brute. I have a few pictures. I'll try and get them scanned in. The story behind how I got finally got her is pretty funny, I'll fill you in when we finally get to get on the water together. I thought about giving her a ride to the store, but it was in late April and she literally had eggs spurting out when I picked her up. I didn't want to risk hurting her by handling so I snapped some shots, held her up and marked my rod and let her go. I don't think at the time I knew how special that fish was. I was learning so much back then, I was just out of college and had just bought my first boat. I assumed if I hit it hard I'd have more shots at a fish like that. Looking back 5 years later, boy was I wrong.

ExBassGuide

06-29-2006, 07:01 PM

I did land a bass that was 24 inches and it was 7 pounds 6oz. The inches help to prove the size of the fish. I am not saying what your fish is or is not. Just enjoy the bass you got!
sure would like you fish with you some day!
Roger

Bad Wood 75

06-29-2006, 09:49 PM

IM up for fishing anytime with you roger, I would love for you to show me how to catch the smallies at hagg. I still cant catch them... but I can the large mouth. I am kinda boatless right now so that kinda of hurts but i did catch my big fish from shore.
Kris

Stowaway

06-30-2006, 12:13 AM

Nice fish!!! It looks pretty dead though.

fishsauce

06-30-2006, 11:24 AM

Bad Wood, Great looking fish! I'm jealous.

DinoHunter

07-01-2006, 10:40 PM

Nice fish!!! It looks pretty dead though.

I agree. That fish should definitly have been put back especially in Hagg. :shrug:

River Ranger

07-02-2006, 05:57 PM

Nice fish!!! It looks pretty dead though.

I agree. That fish should definitly have been put back especially in Hagg. :shrug:

Man,every time someone decides to keep a bass of decent size there is always someone on here that starts spoutin about how it's wrong to keep large fish :hoboy:I highly doubt Bass are in much if any danger as far as populations go.

More power to you friend hope you enjoy your fish fry :food:Thats a hog for sure.

RR.

Dave Smith

07-02-2006, 06:21 PM

YUP. Lot's of presssure from bass fisherman to release fish. I sure wish trout fisherman had been that way about 10 years ago, they (we) are finally learning something from our bass fishing brothers, hopefully not too late (and many are STILL reluctant to come around! :rolleyes:). Dave

portlandstatekid

07-02-2006, 09:31 PM

i think i read bw released the thing

DinoHunter

07-02-2006, 11:35 PM

I think he did end up releasing it.

As for releasing large fish it is only common sense. Especially in Hagg lake where the state record small mouth has come from more then once. The population isn't the worry, yet, but preserving the big fish so they can be caught again. :twocents:

tnj8222

07-03-2006, 08:24 AM

yeah i hate that... ihave learned if you want fish to eat either dont tell people cause you will get raged on or go trout fishing... people dont seem to mind if you pull out a million trout and eat em!!!

Basscaster

07-03-2006, 11:09 AM

Hey tnj8222- The main difference is trout populations can replinish very rapidly due to ODFW's extensive stocking programs. They do nothing for bass. Bass grow very slowly up here and take many years to get to be a good size. Its almost a neccesity for us to preach catch and release, if we didn't I'm not sure we would have many bass left to try and chase around.

River Ranger

07-03-2006, 11:48 AM

Well I would say the Bass are doing far better than other stocks in the state considering they were planted here and are flurishing(sp?).
The trout stocking you refer is not intended to help populations but to provide a recreational fishery.Trout stocking has done far more harm than good.

RR.

DinoHunter

07-03-2006, 09:22 PM

I love how everybody gets butt hurt when the release of a big fish is mentioned. If you would pay attention you would realize that biologists who study these things actually are encouraging keeping certain sizes of bass and trout. Most of the time it is the cookie cutter fish like a 11" bass for example. I love eating bass and plan on making a nice meal in a couple weeks when I go to the Umpqua. However, I will say it again, there is a reason you are only allowed to keep one bass per day at Hagg.
:cheers:

HuntNFishAddict

07-05-2006, 10:51 PM

Dave,
I believe that Bass are a lot more agressive feeders than trout and are much more prolific. I released a bass in my aunts small (kids pool size) pond when I was a kid. That smallie ate all of her goldfish in less than two days. Some of these gold fish were 3-4" long.

With this being said. I do release most fish I catch.

JB

raptorschild

07-06-2006, 08:55 AM

I don't think population or "being able to catch the bass again" is the main issue. C & R of big fish is about genetics. If Aliens came to earth and killed every man over 6' tall. What do you think would happen? The average heigth of man would decrease.

If you leave all the dinks, and kill the trophies, you'll get cookie cutter fisheries over the long term. Its simple C&R all big fish.

1bigfish

07-06-2006, 10:37 AM

I agree with you Raptorschild, but one thing to remember is to know what a "trophy" fish is for the lake you are fishing. For example a "trophy lmb at Green Peter is not always a "trophy" lmb at Tenmile.

It comes down to knowing the water you are fishing. What is the average size of the fish? How is the overall population of the lake? Spend some time getting to know the lake or river you fish before you start tossing them into the frying pan.

Personally I don't eat bass at all. I don't like the taste. The only freshater fish I will keep for my frying pan is walleye or perch(over 9inches). And since it takes skill to catch walleye I mostly eat perch.

tnj8222

07-06-2006, 12:19 PM

oh i hear what your saying bass caster, and i do practice c&r almost 100% of the time.... but i do love the taste of bass, :food: what can i say i ate alot of it as a child... :angel: its very rare i do keep one and sadly its usually is the bigger one i keep :bricks:..... but for the northwest fishing sake i will let them all go now :clap:...... wouldnt wanna deprive all you with the all the fish i catch lol jk :jester: