Rod Fatigue: Higher in Lower Modulus Counts?

[Snagly]

Not exactly as interesting as watching the Selma Hayek snake dance in "From Dusk Til Dawn", but I had a tackle dealer tell me today that I should be buying a GL3 over a GL2 because the GL3 would last longer (fatigue less) due to the higher count of graphite fibers used. First time I've heard the argument. (I'm also going to ask G Loomis and see what they say.)

Anyone ever notice any fatigue in ANY of their graphite rods? If so, any evidence that the more expensive/ higher modulous rods hold up better?

(Now, back to the "***** Twister . . . .")

[smilesforu]

Dance Dance Dance
My biggest reason to use a higher modulus rod is for the extra sensitivity of the bottom when fishing. I find I do not get it in a gl2 rod. In fact I gave my gl2 away because of it. If I am worried about it breaking I am concerned with the warranty instead of why I bought the rod. I don't buy into the higher modulus rod being a stronger rod. It has been my experience they are easier to break because they use less fiber to perform the same function.

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Marty M
Steelheader.net (http://www.steelheader.net/)



[This message has been edited by smilesforu (edited 10-10-2000).]

[Deleted User]

Hey Snagly, would you mind giving us a thorough review of the movie? What we need to know is; would you rent the movie if your TV's audio was broken? Thanks. -- I firmly don't think a lower modulous rod is inherantly more fatigue breakage prone at all. I have fished every kind of rod and modulous range, including many years of guiding abuse use, and haven't noticed any such correlation. I got the original ultra awesome overpriced casting rod, the early 80's Sage 8'6" 8lb to 20lb. version. I broke it just above the ferrule around the 3rd year and they replaced the tip section (the color didn't quite match; can you imagine that from Sage), but I am still using that rod. It's one of the few I've broken. I've used G Loomis' to Loomis Composits and Lami's to Fenwicks; I see no significant difference in longevity among the good brands either. I don't know about some of the very cheapest graphites though. I no longer buy the GL3 caliber rods because I don't think you get the value for the money spent, you don't catch anymore fish than with the better Lami's that cost much less, and you don't have to sweat out that "first scratch" http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/shocked.gif ! Buy 2 or 3 good Lami's or 4 good Berk Buzz Ramsey IM7's instead of 1 GL3 and just enjoy focusing on the fish and not the rod; that's my take now. - RT

[Snagly]

Movie Review: "From Dusk Til Dawn" (starring George Clooney, Harvey Keitel, Quentin Tarrantino and Juliette Lewis) is two movies. The first hour is one of the best "bad guys on the run" movies since the 1960's Clint and Sam P Westerns. George and Quentin play jail-breaking murderous bandits fleeing Texas for Mexico. Harvey, Juliette and family are kidnapped along the way to a Mexico hideout. In Mexico, at the "***** Twister" the movie takes a weird turn for the worse.

Would I watch it w/o audio? The first hour, yes, though like all Tarrantino movies you need to hear the dialogue too. The second hour, you couldn't pay me to watch unless Selma Hayek was there to help me out.

[Snagly]

Heard back from G. Loomis on this quesiton:

"Thanks for the inquiry Brad. The GL3 doesn't necessarily retain it's performance level longer than the GL2... the GL3 simply has a higher level of performance than the
GL2. The higher modulus GL3 of course allows us to make a rod with different properties than the GL2 graphite... but it doesn't really mean that the rod's properties will stay intact longer. Hope this kind of explains a bit??
Best of luck with it!!

Aaron LaMere

G.Loomis Customer Service"

[KrystalFlash]

I'll Agree with RT on this one.....
I have fished GL2's, Lami's, IM7's and St. Croix, and the difference is minimal. You can waste a LOT of quality fishing time getting hung up on looking for the "Perfect rod".
My advice? Get a good Graphite rod and reel that are matched to the fishing that you are doing and fish them. After all your luck is best with your line in the water! No matter what the rod.

Best 'o luck to you!
>< )))"> <KF>

[smilesforu]

Good movie review. I will have to rent this one since I can never seem to watch the second half. http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/shocked.gif http://www.ifish.net/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif On the warranty side of the rod I just got my lamiglas replaced and it cost me 4 bucks to ship and 10 for s&h on there side to get it replaced. They built me a new tip to go with the old butt section. Hard to beat the lamiglas rods unless you custom build your own sticks.
Tight Lines

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Marty M
Steelheader.net (http://www.steelheader.net/)