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Corkie Monster
03-10-2006, 08:39 AM
What you will need:
Sharp Scissors with a precise tip
Bobbin
Thread I use Kevlar
Bodkin for applying head cement
Head cement
Small comb
Fly Tying Vise

Start a few wraps from the jig head and wrap back towards the bend of the hook at about 1/8”. Trim off tag end of thread.
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Feather Selection:
A good feather will have good untangled fluff at the base with a thin flexible quill. Once you find a good feather follow the quill to where it starts to thicken, that’s where you want to trim the base off.
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Next, remove about the first 1/16” of barbs off the base of your feathers.
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The feathers will have a natural curve to them. By holding the base of your feather with your fingertips, turn the feather to where it wants to drape downward.
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Match up the quills as shown in the picture and set them on the shank of the hook just behind the previously tied wraps, making sure the feathers are draping downwards over the shank of the hook.
Align the base of the quills so that they are at a 45 degree angle to the shank of the hook. Secure feathers with a few wraps and continue wraps back to the jig head.
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The next step I find to be the most difficult step. You need to try and keep the quills aligned and also trying not to break or split your feathers. Once you get past this step it’s very simple. It will take practice to get good at this step.
Now firmly pinch the base of your feathers and twist the quills towards the head and at a downward motion, trying your best to keep the quills together
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Now slowly start your first wrap. This is where your Bodkin can come in handy to keep the quills together and untangling the feather barbs as you go. Using your thumb and Index finger pull the feathers back toward the bend of the hook at the same time as you make your wraps you will want to separate the feather barbs with your fingers, comb, or Bodkin, I’m usually able to use just my fingers. Continue your wraps all the way to the head of the jig.
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Once you reach the jig head with your wraps it’s time to tie off the feathers. I will pull the quills slightly toward the jig head and make a few thread wraps to hold feathers in place.
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Next, take your comb and comb out the barbs of the feathers, your bodkin can be used to pick out and barbs that have gotten tangled in your wraps.
Be careful not to hook your thread with the comb, I will pull down on my Bobbin to add thread tension while combing to insure that the feathers don’t unravel.
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Now, you will prepare your jig for the finishing knot. I pull all the feathers back and pinch them down tight to the shank of the hook. I then add a few more thread wraps to make sure the feathers are secure.
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Now is the time to add your finishing knots. There are several types knots to use, I just use a couple of half hitches. Cinch your knots down tight, this is why I like to use Kevlar thread, it’s very strong so you can pull pretty hard on it. After tying your knot detach your bobbin and add a layer of Head Cement directly to the knot to hold the knot tight.
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fnf-nick
03-10-2006, 08:52 AM
hey thanks for the help, looks good but I think I will keep tying the other way for awhile then I will try that

Corkie Monster
03-10-2006, 08:57 AM
This method is extremely hard to describe and not that hard to do. If anyone wants to jump in and :help: explain, your more than welcome too. I think I will do a video and email it to people who wants it, Unless there is a way I can post a video on Ifish.

Thanks
CM

Ryan Pultz
03-10-2006, 09:00 AM
thats how I do it great post!! rp

yankemnbankem
03-10-2006, 09:40 AM
Nice close up shot of the gash in your thumb! Was that from the last thumb burning steelhead run? or from tying too many jigs :smash:

catchnrelease
03-10-2006, 09:52 AM
Thanks for the post! I am confused on the point where you push the fur toward the head. Do you fold over the quills in a "V" shape or double them back like an "S"?

Also, do you only use part of the quill and toss the rest or can you get multiple jigs out of one quill?

Thanks again!! :applause:

thumbar
03-10-2006, 09:54 AM
i think i got it! thanks alot for the post, now i have to buy another box! lol! :cheers: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Corkie Monster
03-10-2006, 10:22 AM
Nice close up shot of the gash in your thumb! Was that from the last thumb burning steelhead run? or from tying too many jigs



Unfortunately there is no cool story for the gash on my thumb. I'll just say I had a conflict with a knife and a carrot. :bigshock: :redface:

CM

Grumpy_one
03-10-2006, 10:26 AM
One question, how far apart should the wraps be? Great post!!

Corkie Monster
03-10-2006, 10:28 AM
Thanks for the post! I am confused on the point where you push the fur toward the head. Do you fold over the quills in a "V" shape or double them back like an "S"?

Also, do you only use part of the quill and toss the rest or can you get multiple jigs out of one quill?

Thanks again!!



I'm not sure what your asking for, what step/pic are you referring too.

I only use part of the feather and toss the rest.

CM

Corkie Monster
03-10-2006, 10:30 AM
One question, how far apart should the wraps be? Great post!!



As close together as possible.

CM

Grumpy_one
03-10-2006, 10:32 AM
One more of many more to come I'm sure. Feather type. Can you mix feather type, what is you preference i.e. schlappen, saddle hackle? Thanks!!

Corkie Monster
03-10-2006, 10:42 AM
One more of many more to come I'm sure. Feather type. Can you mix feather type, what is you preference i.e. schlappen, saddle hackle? Thanks!!



Definitely! I mix feathers for different textures all the time.

CM

catchnrelease
03-10-2006, 10:56 AM
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I'm not sure what your asking for, what step/pic are you referring too.

I only use part of the feather and toss the rest.

CM

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from pict 12 to 13 where the feathers are folded back, to bring them closer to the head. Do you fold them in a "V" then wrap toward the head, then refold and wrap away from the head.

fishloader
03-10-2006, 11:02 AM
nice post. I'll take 10.- you do a much better job than I do!

Corkie Monster
03-10-2006, 11:04 AM
I'm wrapping the feathers toward the head and pulling the barbs back to keep them from being tangled in the quill as I wrap. Does that make sense :whazzup: :shrug: :grin:

CM

Grumpy_one
03-10-2006, 11:43 AM
Ok, one other thing that I think would help in these photo's, is some kind of ruler, like a 6" rule, to have some kind of reference. :cheers: :cheers:

Ty
03-10-2006, 01:39 PM
Great pics and post.... Very well done... I always palmer saddle hackles and marabou... U can layer as many as u want... Make a jig popsickle if u will.

nitrobass
03-10-2006, 01:58 PM
Thats a first class post, thanks for taking the time!

:cheers:

Grumpy_one
03-10-2006, 02:08 PM
I tied 6 jigs since reading this post. Awsome, just awsome. I am besides myself. :cheers: :smash: :yay: :wave: :bowdown: :dance:

latesvak
12-28-2006, 10:46 AM
man o man . thats a awesome thread . and sweet pics . it will help alot of people

luke